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Old 09-10-2010, 04:10 PM   #16
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Well,
It came with one....




...but I took it off 'cause I don't crash anymore....



I hope.....
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Old 09-10-2010, 05:11 PM   #17
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in my experience they sometimes save the valve cover by bending the frame
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Old 09-10-2010, 05:18 PM   #18
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A friend of mine doesn't like 'em cause he thinks you can catch 'em and high side... causing further trouble.

better to scrape the fins.....
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Old 09-10-2010, 05:52 PM   #19
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Head covers on the other hand would be nice.

Like the modern oilheads.
Precisely.
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Old 09-10-2010, 08:50 PM   #20
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Just don't clip any tree's....



Especially if you have crappy ass self-folding crashbars on your bike. They did a number on the valve cover and frame. I am _certain_ that without the bars on I'd have no damage save for perhaps a scratch or two. Those things buckled and did more damage to the bike then the tree would have.
A perspective from the GSpot forum on crash bars. Frankly, my opinion of crash bars and "'roo" bars wrapping around fairings is that they're worthless crap supposedly protecting superflouous plastic crap hiding proper dual purpose motorcyles. A lot like wire rock guards on headlights and taillights on Grand Cherokees that'll never leave the interstate or suburbs.

But I'm a cranky old goof with opinions.

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Old 09-10-2010, 11:00 PM   #21
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With the crash bars that come on the R80G/S, R80 ST, and R100 GS, if you remove the left crash bar you remove the side stand too. When I low sided my R80 ST without the crash bars at about 45 mph, the valve cover did a great job protecting the bike and did not even grind a hole in it! I am all for the idea that crash bars cause more damage than they prevent, unfortunately some of the bikes need them for the side stand.
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Old 09-10-2010, 11:57 PM   #22
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but what would i mount my oil cooler to?
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Old 09-11-2010, 12:58 AM   #23
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but what would i mount my oil cooler to?
Linky, amongst others
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Old 09-11-2010, 05:59 AM   #24
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I did a 35mph lowside on gravel with a r100gs, the factory crash bar came loose from the frame and actually wound up shoving itself through the valve cover! I think it helped a little, but the thing then had to be removed and chunked in the ditch along with the worthless side stand before I could start repairing up the valve cover.
I think they are usefull only to put your feet on once you move the oil cooler.
I do like the idea of some thick aluminum comming from the valve cover down to the motor mount. I wish I could weld (or spell) aluminim better.
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:09 AM   #25
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Yes, on the R80g/s (came with them stock with sidestand attached, not much weight).

No on the R90/6. Just more weight and expense.
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Old 09-11-2010, 08:08 AM   #26
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I run the stock guards on the ST and the GS and the R80 is naked.

I've not crashed the gs yet (mostly as I've not been able to take it off road yet)

But the ST guards have held up decently in the few off road tip overs

To paraphrase somebody else...
It's a $200 guard protecting a $50 part...
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Old 09-11-2010, 10:49 AM   #27
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Alrighty then. I was wondering if some guru was going to pipe in with some scientific study showing that crash guards have been shown to keep cylinders from peeling off the case but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Intuitively, they mostly looked like bling to me but I had niggling doubts that haven't been affirmed so far in this thread.
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Old 09-11-2010, 10:53 AM   #28
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I keep them on the ST because it came that way; the left one mounts the side stand; and when getting the valve cover gasket surface on the head spotlessly clean of oil, nothing beats laying the bike over with the crash bar resting on a chunk of 4X6 so oil doesn't keep dripping out on the bottom of the flange you just cleaned so thoroughly with solvent.

In fact, after just figuring that trick out recently, there are several other maintenance chores that may see the crash bar(s) resting on the 4X6 wood block just to give easier access to stuff down low on the bike.
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Old 09-11-2010, 01:05 PM   #29
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Alrighty then. I was wondering if some guru was going to pipe in with some scientific study showing that crash guards have been shown to keep cylinders from peeling off the case but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Intuitively, they mostly looked like bling to me but I had niggling doubts that haven't been affirmed so far in this thread.
Heres a scientific study that addresses the benefits of crash bars: http://images.cyclegarden.com/cgi-bi...6.jpg&img=&tt=
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Old 09-11-2010, 01:42 PM   #30
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Mine came with the krauser engine guards that have a hoop that runs under the cylinder and another that ties up to the frame. I don't worry about it folding back, but I do worry about it bending the frame. I think what concerns me the most is the thought that it reduces my cornering clearance some. There are times I wonder how close it is getting. Right now it is where I put my parking pass sticker without worrying about messing up paint anywhere. I use the stock side stand a lot and figure it will help out if the bike ever fell over. So far the side stand has worked fine.
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