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Old 02-05-2011, 12:30 AM   #91
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What are you talkin about March. Sunny blue sky, looks like great conditions to test out the new suspension.
I know you don't get to see the sun out there too much. But you do know what that sun means around here?

Below zero temps.

I'm a wuss, and I don't have the snow gear to keep from freezing like the Finish riders have.

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Old 02-05-2011, 07:56 AM   #92
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We haven't seen the sun in about a year. If you really wanted to try out the suspension sooner you could put these on.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:53 AM   #93
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We haven't seen the sun in about a year.
Sucks here too. There's a couple clouds in the sky, and I don't think its going to make it to 70 today.

Might even rain next weekend.
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Old 02-06-2011, 04:28 PM   #94
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There is a little discussion going on in another thread. I thought I would throw it back here so we don't clutter up a useful thread.

To get an idea of the weights that the suspension is seeing, I brought a scale home from work. It was one of the industrial digital jobbies with leveling feet, 24" x 24", about 4" high. To get the bike level on the scale, I laid a couple 2X6 boards out in my garage and asked a couple friends to help me out.




Here's where the controversy starts.

Rider

240





Front
No Rider
265
45%

Sitting
293
40%

Standing
312
42%




Rear
No Rider
325
55%

Sitting
438
60%

Stainding
425
58%




Total
No Rider
590


Sitting
731


Standing
737




With the size of the scale and the goal of getting the weights of the bike, front and rear, we measured the weight on one wheel at a time. This chart shows the weights and the results added together, and they should al be equal.

While we tried to keep things level, and level out the scale, you can imagine some errors from the set up. Keeping the wheel centered on the scale, how much were the helpers holding up the bike, suspension friction as I moved from sitting to standing, keeping the scale level.

Anyway we ended up with a 1% margine of error. I think its acceptable, but, we are trying to show a 2% difference in weight. Anyway, weighing a bike isn't as easy as it looks.

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Old 02-06-2011, 10:00 PM   #95
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If I read that right, your bike weights 590 lbs.! That seems high to me, what other than the standard bike did you weigh?
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:37 AM   #96
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That mortar on the left side seems to add quite a bit!
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:42 AM   #97
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If I read that right, your bike weights 590 lbs.! That seems high to me, what other than the standard bike did you weigh?
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However, is that red Rotopax full? What is in the panniers? What is in the red duffel? Is there gas in the tank?

On average, a set of panniers with racks weighs ~30lbs. If there is gas in the tank, 4.2 gallons of gasoline weighs exactly 25.6lbs. Just that 1 gallon in the Rotopax weighs 6.2lbs. Unless its the two gallon Rotopax, in which case that's 12.2lbs. Whatever is in that red bag probably weighs 10lbs or so. Now add the weight of all the aftermarket bolt on bits (skid plate, crash bars, aux lights, headlight guard, etc, etc, etc), and you've got one heavy-ass bike.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:56 PM   #98
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Both 1.25 gal Kolpin tanks were full, tools, slime compressor, innertubes,

Duffle - 4-man tent, sleeping bag, air matress, cable and padlock.

Complete Vario bag kit, engine gards, hand gards, light kit, center stand, bash plate, tool tube. The fuel tank was also full.

Its easy to get 100+ pounds. In the weight thread, the measurements ranged from 460 lbs to 500 lbs

As far as accuracy, my wieght was the test weight and seemed reasonable. I normally wiegh 222 on the bathroom scale and 225 at the doctor's office. Add on the Darien, fleece, pants, helmet, and boots and 240 seems like a good number.

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Old 02-12-2011, 01:48 PM   #99
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New Shock

I have the rear shock on order. To be installed next week. Ohlins customer service explained that the TTX set up was a success for lighter weight off road bikes, but not so nice for medium to large dual sport machines. The NIX front fork kit was developed specifically for these larger displacement applications. WITH great success. TTX made a name in the off road racing circles and the NIX addresses real world needs for the NON competition riders and their "big bikes" - read 450cc and OVER.

I will let USA Ohlins modify my forks after the rear shock upgrade.

And I am looking forward to a whole new experience in regard to handling and performance.
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Old 02-12-2011, 02:31 PM   #100
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I will let USA Ohlins modify my forks after the rear shock upgrade.
Whats the cost for this? Whats actually done?
Assume your talkin' Funky Forks For F8ooGS.

Thanks!
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Old 02-12-2011, 03:06 PM   #101
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ohlins front forks

ahhh, I don't have my notes in front of me.

It was around $1600 for the NIX kit. $200 to install. Then shipping.
I guess I can pull the fork tubes and pack them or the dealer will stick me for another $200 - $300 and the TWO WEEK +/- turn around time. Longer when the weather turns nice and they have to deal with a backlog of work.

So the rear shock is a good start. Front forks will finish the project.

I migh need my TAX RETURN to pay for that job.
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Old 02-12-2011, 03:50 PM   #102
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I think I'll be putting off the suspension work for a while. I ended up buying another bike so the budget is shot for a while, or at least until I sell the old R1100RS. The new bike is an 08 K1200GT
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Old 02-12-2011, 06:43 PM   #103
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I have the rear shock on order. To be installed next week. Ohlins customer service explained that the TTX set up was a success for lighter weight off road bikes, but not so nice for medium to large dual sport machines. The NIX front fork kit was developed specifically for these larger displacement applications. WITH great success. TTX made a name in the off road racing circles and the NIX addresses real world needs for the NON competition riders and their "big bikes" - read 450cc and OVER.

I will let USA Ohlins modify my forks after the rear shock upgrade.

And I am looking forward to a whole new experience in regard to handling and performance.
They certianly like to brag about the amount of test time they have. I'm hoping it works as good as they say. - David
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:30 AM   #104
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They certianly like to brag about the amount of test time they have. I'm hoping it works as good as they say.
+1.

Almost completely unrelated data point, but when I was searching for a shock for my cbr for track use 6-7 years ago, the answer I got from a couple of experienced guys was "Ohlins pretty much always needs to be revalved before you use it". I bought the penske...
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:59 PM   #105
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"Ohlins pretty much always needs to be revalved before you use it". I bought the penske...
That seems strange that you would have to re-valve the Ohlins right out of the gate.

Almost like buying a $15,000 dualsport bike and having to change out all the suspension (and seat and wheels and... )

My previous experience with Ohlins was outstanding.

My forks are off to Ohlins in Hendersonville, NC today and will return with the new cartridge kit (oil, single direction damping in each fork leg, yada yada yada) along with a BM802 for the rear.

Either way, I will probably still be the slowest guy on the mountain, but able to hop curbs at Starbucks like nobody's bidness.
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