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Old 09-22-2010, 01:04 AM   #1
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Taller 5th gear for XR650L???

I used to do alot of 4wheeling. In that hobby there is a huge cottage industry that sells customers steeper gearing for their Xfer cases. That way you can have your cake and eat it too. Much lower gearing when "wheeling" and the ability to cruise at reasonable hwy speeds.

Apparently the Japanese can't get their heads outta their rump and offer a dualsport with a decent wide ratio tranny. Close ratio for the first four or so gears for trail performance and a tall OD top gear for the hwy ala Husky 610. So question is, does anyone offer a set of drop in taller gears for the XR650L?
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:14 AM   #2
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I used to do alot of 4wheeling. In that hobby there is a huge cottage industry that sells customers steeper gearing for their Xfer cases. That way you can have your cake and eat it too. Much lower gearing when "wheeling" and the ability to cruise at reasonable hwy speeds.

Apparently the Japanese can't get their heads outta their rump and offer a dualsport with a decent wide ratio tranny. Close ratio for the first four or so gears for trail performance and a tall OD top gear for the hwy ala Husky 610. So question is, does anyone offer a set of drop in taller gears for the XR650L?

Not to my knowledge. You could search different models, XR, NX for the 5th gear tooth count but I don't know of anything like your request. Going 1 tooth up on the front will be to much, The engine gust doesn't have the beans to pull it. Going down 1 or 2 on the rear might work as long as your not trail riding the bike.
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:30 AM   #3
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Change out the second gear too close the 1st-2nd gap with an NX650 2nd gear (16teeth) and leave the final drive gearing at 15/45..........you can crawl through the woods in 1st and 2nd and fly down the highway at 65-70 with no probs..i`ve had mine with some engine mods up to 110 mph on my GPS and if i tucked down i`d get a little more.........can`t see me doing that again.................how fast do you think a dirtbike should go

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Old 09-22-2010, 08:35 AM   #4
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Change out the second gear too close the 1st-2nd gap with an NX650 2nd gear (16teeth) and leave the final drive gearing at 15/45..........you can crawl through the woods in 1st and 2nd and fly down the highway at 65-70 with no probs..i`ve had mine with some engine mods up to 110 mph on my GPS and if i tucked down i`d get a little more.........can`t see me doing that again.................how fast do you think a dirtbike should go

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I would like to be able to keep up with traffic at around 80-85mph on the interstate while not revving the poo outta it. Then run rocks on OHV trails. Either a deeper 1st gear or a taller 5th will work.
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:38 AM   #5
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Not to my knowledge. You could search different models, XR, NX for the 5th gear tooth count but I don't know of anything like your request. Going 1 tooth up on the front will be to much, The engine gust doesn't have the beans to pull it. Going down 1 or 2 on the rear might work as long as your not trail riding the bike.
I don't care if the engine can't pull 5th to redline. I just want it running at a much more relaxed rpm while cruising on the hwy. My wifes Ascot can cruise all day at 80mph because of the tall 6th OD. Husky seems to get it with their tall 6th gear, how come the Japanese can't seem to figure this out? They did way back in 83 then forgot it apparently.
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:03 AM   #6
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:09 AM   #7
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I would like to be able to keep up with traffic at around 80-85mph on the interstate while not revving the poo outta it. Then run rocks on OHV trails. Either a deeper 1st gear or a taller 5th will work.
Maybe as a commuter...then he could buy a dirtbike for the rocks.
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Old 09-22-2010, 01:56 PM   #8
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No interest what-so-ever in a KLR. Already have a DR650 and it sucks everywhere, just not as bad as the KLR.

A cheaper, simpler Husky TE610 is what I want. The XR is cheap to buy and maintain. Cheap and easy to mod into exactly what you what as it arguably has the largest aftermarket support. It's air cooled. It's easy to maintain too but it has one problem, you can gear it low for fun or gear it high for the hwy but you can't have both like you can with the Husky. A tall top gear would fix that and why Honda nor Suzuki can do it is beyond my comprehension. Oh yea, did I mentien it's air cooled.
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:04 PM   #9
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:10 PM   #10
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Unfortunately it seems carrying and changing CS sprockets might be the best solution for you.. Some guys actually do it, and rather quickly even. Not this one.. I just enjoy my "not simple" 610..
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Then buy something else
and that's what this thread is about.

If I can use the aftermarket or creative OEM swapping to fix what I see as the XR's main issue vs the Husky I'll get it. If not, I'll spend the extra money and get the Husky.
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:14 PM   #12
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Unfortunately it seems carrying and changing CS sprockets might be the best solution for you.. Some guys actually do it, and rather quickly even. Not this one.. I just enjoy my "not simple" 610..
That's what I have done a couple times on my DR650 {clip holding the front sprocket and no cover}. And yes, it looks like I might end up having a "not simple" and more costly 610.
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Just wanted to update this thread with relevant info in case anyone finds this post during a search. Apparently Honda did make a taller 5th gear for the XR650L,,,,,,,,,,,,, it was installed in their FMX650 which was a Euro spec bike built between 05 and 09.

Getting it here will cost a bit due to shipping but I will be investigating it because from what I here, it's taller ratio is roughly equal to running a tooth less on the front or three teeth higher on the rear. If true, I could run a 14T front an a 48T rear and be fairly cool on the interstate.

Will also try to get a NX650 2nd gear to pop in while the cases are split. The NX650 is a bit lower than the OEM XR650L 2nd gear and helps quell the huge hole between 1st and 2nd.
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Just wanted to update this thread with relevant info in case anyone finds this post during a search. Apparently Honda did make a taller 5th gear for the XR650L,,,,,,,,,,,,, it was installed in their FMX650 which was a Euro spec bike built between 05 and 09.

Getting it here will cost a bit due to shipping but I will be investigating it because from what I here, it's taller ratio is roughly equal to running a tooth less on the front or three teeth higher on the rear. If true, I could run a 14T front an a 48T rear and be fairly cool on the interstate.

Will also try to get a NX650 2nd gear to pop in while the cases are split. The NX650 is a bit lower than the OEM XR650L 2nd gear and helps quell the huge hole between 1st and 2nd.

If you can get a part number, talk to some of our friends that traverse the pond and see if one is will to bring it home with them or willing to buy it and ship it to you.

If you do get a part number please post it!
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