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Old 01-31-2013, 03:20 PM   #1531
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Kirkster Fabrication, or KF!









This is a cool site!

http://cooltext.com/

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I thought Rookie Fab had a nice ring to it. Maybe a star separating the words.

K70 Fab. Star again. Only drawbacks - Kenda tires, and I think it's an old BMW car as well.

Driven Fabrication, but there's one in MD.

Meh. I'll just ease into it and see what happens!
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:39 PM   #1532
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I burn up the remaining sheet making another basic set in raw aluminum. Same dimensions: 18"W x 16"H x 9"D. Anyone smarter than me care to calculate the liter size? Don't forget to deduct the 4 1/4" x 3" x 3" x 18"L bevel.










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Old 01-31-2013, 03:51 PM   #1533
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I think you are OK with this, so long as it doesn't happen every time you finish a set. Then you would have to move the sales part to Vendors.

Thos look great! I actually like the look of the latches on the bare aluminum! They look very strong and have lock loops! Nice job.

By the way, how much are you "pimping" these for?

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PS If someone asks you can answer! I have some experience in this.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:57 PM   #1534
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now a really want them,,, he gave me a price but i will let him answer that in case anything has changed. hey jim can ya buy them for me and let me make some payments to you??

great job on these kirkster, i will be a customer in the near future,
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:05 PM   #1535
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now a really want them,,, he gave me a price but i will let him answer that in case anything has changed. hey jim can ya buy them for me and let me make some payments to you??

great job on these kirkster, i will be a customer in the near future,
I could, but there would be a 33 1/3 mark-up for my handling fee!

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Old 01-31-2013, 04:29 PM   #1536
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Just a suggestion. One thing that always burns my ass is the open loop on those type of fasteners. Can you tig/mig/smig that into one piece? No bending or separating anymore!
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:42 PM   #1537
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Those are nice latches. Agree on tig'ing the loop closed. Almost looks like a bottle opener.

Where did you find those at? Not that I'm about to change the latch on my Jesse's, but I need to file that away for future reference.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:43 PM   #1538
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Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

Those are nice latches. Agree on tig'ing the loop closed. Almost looks like a bottle opener.

Where did you find those at? Not that I'm about to change the latch on my Jesse's, but I need to file that away for future reference.
The good thing is they will be harder to open, tigged or not, and 90% of other latches with a padlock.

Plus they can be adjusted as the seal begins to compress over time.

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Old 01-31-2013, 05:53 PM   #1539
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Just a suggestion. One thing that always burns my ass is the open loop on those type of fasteners. Can you tig/mig/smig that into one piece? No bending or separating anymore!
Lemme go fire up the SMIG.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:59 PM   #1540
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Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

Those are nice latches. Agree on tig'ing the loop closed. Almost looks like a bottle opener.

Where did you find those at? Not that I'm about to change the latch on my Jesse's, but I need to file that away for future reference.
I'm going to try and open a beer bottle with them!!!! Bonus feature!!

Found on ebay. Just bought 4 more today.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:12 PM   #1541
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I burn up the remaining sheet making another basic set in raw aluminum. Same dimensions: 18"W x 16"H x 9"D. Anyone smarter than me care to calculate the liter size? Don't forget to deduct the 4 1/4" x 3" x 3" x 18"L bevel.
Assuming your dimensions are outside dimensions...and that I drew the cutout correctly...



Total volume of the outside shell is 2511 cu inches

Total area of aluminum is 985.4 sq-in * 0.080" thickness is 78.83 cu in

So total interior volume is 2432.17 cu in

or 39.86 liters. I did not calc the flange And I could be totally wrong.

78.83 cu inches of aluminum also weighs .0975 lbs/in^2 so each bag should weigh 7.68 lbs minus the flange and the lid.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:24 PM   #1542
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Assuming your dimensions are outside dimensions...and that I drew the cutout correctly...



Total volume of the outside shell is 2511 cu inches

Total area of aluminum is 985.4 sq-in * 0.080" thickness is 78.83 cu in

So total interior volume is 2432.17 cu in

or 39.86 liters. I did not calc the flange And I could be totally wrong.

78.83 cu inches of aluminum also weighs .0975 lbs/in^2 so each bag should weigh 7.68 lbs minus the flange and the lid.
That sounds about right based on many other similar sized bags, even slightly bigger. The weight is about right as well, since once you add the seals and hardware each bag might weigh 9-10 pounds.

Jesse bags weigh about 13# with hardware and powder coat, but have more angles and welds, plus a heavy seal the weighs about 1# each. Jesse Oddysey bags are 105 liters for 10", but have a cut-out on the left bag, and tall lids that they use for calculation.

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Old 01-31-2013, 06:29 PM   #1543
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Kirk,

If you want me to draw up your bags so you have cut files I can easily do that. I drew that basic bag in about 2 minutes with breaks to scream at the Rangers (Go Pens!!). It's how I have done all my bags, and I don't even have cool tools like you do. Just a thought esp if you want to quickly resize a bag for someone or make an exhaust cutout and don't want to spend hours drawing by hand.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:26 PM   #1544
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Wow! Thanks, Sailah! And here I was just about to break out the calculator on my phone. Thanks, buddy! What program is this?

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Assuming your dimensions are outside dimensions...and that I drew the cutout correctly...



Total volume of the outside shell is 2511 cu inches

Total area of aluminum is 985.4 sq-in * 0.080" thickness is 78.83 cu in

So total interior volume is 2432.17 cu in

or 39.86 liters. I did not calc the flange And I could be totally wrong.

78.83 cu inches of aluminum also weighs .0975 lbs/in^2 so each bag should weigh 7.68 lbs minus the flange and the lid.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:29 PM   #1545
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Thanks! Believe it or not, but every one of my sketches I post take 10 minutes or less. My pannier sketches probably half that.

I'll be in touch if I come up with any more pannier designs. Thanks for the offer!

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If you want me to draw up your bags so you have cut files I can easily do that. I drew that basic bag in about 2 minutes with breaks to scream at the Rangers (Go Pens!!). It's how I have done all my bags, and I don't even have cool tools like you do. Just a thought esp if you want to quickly resize a bag for someone or make an exhaust cutout and don't want to spend hours drawing by hand.
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