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Old 01-21-2014, 02:03 PM   #3061
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a lot are. The main thing is cable length and the curvature of the end fittings.
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Old 01-21-2014, 02:21 PM   #3062
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So if you had a DRZ400, an XR650, an XR600, a KLR650, an F800GS and a Tiger 800 all out on the same ride and carried one clutch cable assembly as a spare, a person could probably jury rig any of the bikes to operate if one randomly snapped its clutch cable? Rather than screwing with the kit I linked back last page, a person could carry a clutch cable in sheath with fittings and it will work for all those bikes? At least well enough to travel 50-100 miles to the nearest place to get a proper replacement?


Granted, that kit from earlier would work for throttle cable repairs too...
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:44 PM   #3063
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clutch cables are pretty cheap. I can get a motion pro for the drz for under 20 bucks. What some RTW riders do is route a spare cable next to the working one so that if something breaks all you need to do is loosen the ends and swap it out. For us sunday riders there's really no need for all of that where you can limp your bike back the 20 miles to civilization and get a replacement. That is of course unless you're running the dakar every weekend like Eddy.
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:45 AM   #3064
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So my clutch cable had frayed and broke right next to where it attaches at the gear housing. I took my bike to Cycle Werks on the recommendation from Apache Motorsports (I think that was their name, Apache something anyways) where the owner, French, worked on my bike. He has a roll of cable in his shop with all the parts to make his own cables and that's how he goes about fixing cable problems. He made me an entire new cable that is slightly thicker than the OEM cable. He just slid the new cable in the OEM rubber sleeve that was already on the bike. After an hour of working on my bike and helping out the occasional customer that came by he told me I was good to go like he wasn't going to charge me anything. I asked him what I owed him and he shrugged his shoulders and asked if $20 sounded good. I didn't balk.

Since I was satisfied with the service, I asked him if he does valve inspections and he said he could do it for 2 hours of labor and worst case would be $24 for 4 new shims. That's a lot cheaper than the 300 some bucks that Ride Now charged me last time I had them looked at. I think I'll go back.
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:17 AM   #3065
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So my clutch cable had frayed and broke right next to where it attaches at the gear housing. I took my bike to Cycle Werks on the recommendation from Apache Motorsports (I think that was their name, Apache something anyways) where the owner, French, worked on my bike. He has a roll of cable in his shop with all the parts to make his own cables and that's how he goes about fixing cable problems. He made me an entire new cable that is slightly thicker than the OEM cable. He just slid the new cable in the OEM rubber sleeve that was already on the bike. After an hour of working on my bike and helping out the occasional customer that came by he told me I was good to go like he wasn't going to charge me anything. I asked him what I owed him and he shrugged his shoulders and asked if $20 sounded good. I didn't balk.

Since I was satisfied with the service, I asked him if he does valve inspections and he said he could do it for 2 hours of labor and worst case would be $24 for 4 new shims. That's a lot cheaper than the 300 some bucks that Ride Now charged me last time I had them looked at. I think I'll go back.
An hour after helping out other customers. Hmm... Sounds to me like he could have done it in 10 minutes if he would have concentrated specifically at the task in hand. WHAT A HACK! (kidding for those that have a hard time reading sarcasm)

Good to hear it worked out. Sounds like that kit that w2rm posted would work just the same. May have to get that for the tool kit.
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:26 AM   #3066
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I ordered one of those cable kits today along with some other non-bike stuff.
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Old 01-22-2014, 01:44 PM   #3067
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I'm pretty dyed in the wool, work on my own kinda guy.... but I and others I know have worked with French and he's a good egg...
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Old 01-22-2014, 07:23 PM   #3068
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I just run mine like you suggested, cyberdos. Spare already zip tied in place, just switch ends and go. You don't even know it's there, and you don't have to find a place for it in your bags or camelback. Easy peasy.
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Old 01-22-2014, 07:34 PM   #3069
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An hour after helping out other customers. Hmm... Sounds to me like he could have done it in 10 minutes if he would have concentrated specifically at the task in hand. WHAT A HACK! (kidding for those that have a hard time reading sarcasm)

Good to hear it worked out. Sounds like that kit that w2rm posted would work just the same. May have to get that for the tool kit.
I wasn't too worried about it. I wasn't in a hurry and he was getting me back on the road as I didn't have the parts to fix it myself.

I do get the sarcasm though.
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:18 PM   #3070
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So...if clutch lever is in, should the rear wheel turn?

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we're talking about a clutch cable right?
Seriously...I put the bike up on the center stand after I got it and was running through the automatic shut off test described in the MOM and saw that the rear wheel rotates when the bike is in gear but the clutch is engaged. Not knowing anything about what is supposed to happen, I still thought that wasn't right. The video suggests that the guy felt because of his stretched cable, he was having problems moving into gears.

So, how likely am I to need to change out my cable, and might this be related to some other issue, or is that what it's supposed to do? Is this the likely reason that the bike has a hard time settling into gear, especially when it only a few minutes warm?

And, should the front wheel sound like the faint rasp of medal rubbing against medal? The pads are good. And after a long ride the disks are not especially hot. I understand there is a bearing in the hub. Again, not knowing anything about this sort of thing, does this sound like a problem?
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:35 PM   #3071
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Rear wheel

It is normal for the rear wheel to spin, most will turn slowly even with out the bike in gear but in gear and clutch in it will definately spin. The front wheel sounds like there is something going on, could you have a stone or something stuck between the pad and disk?
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:48 PM   #3072
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here is what we do on a cold winters day -16 F with a wind chill of -30 F

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=FOhebHW2uTU
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:58 PM   #3073
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Ouch. It was 78 degrees here today.

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it's normal to have a slight spin even if the clutch lever is pulled in. You may also get the wheel spinning while on a stand even when in neutral.

Your clutch cable has an adjustment. You'll know for certain that you need a new clutch cable if that adjustment is no more or if the clutch starts getting unusual drag and stiffening up. That's a tell tale sign that something is frayed inside the cable housing.

As far as the front wheel noise, is it coming from the calipers? If it is then I'd say you're probably in need of caliper rebuild. The rubber components on the pistons start to deteriorate with time and start sticking. Rebuild kits are cheap and are pretty simple to install.
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Old 01-22-2014, 11:02 PM   #3074
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I dunno why you guys are asking me questions as I don't know nothin' about nothin'.

I did sleep at a holiday inn once.

Seriously though, most of the stuff I know is from banging my head against a wall figuring stuff out over time. (and also having a best friend who's been a life long mechanic helps ) Whatever I know that may help any of you out my garage is always open.
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Old 01-23-2014, 07:22 AM   #3075
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here is what we do on a cold winters day -16 F with a wind chill of -30 F

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=FOhebHW2uTU
You play AC DC on a bagpipe with flames coming out while pelvic thrusting?
Me thinks that wasn't the link you intended.
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