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Old 01-25-2014, 08:41 PM   #3106
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needed to go a bit further for the rough parts,,, so did you guys hike to the ruins?
Two of us made it up. They're amazing. And the route to get up there is mind-boggling. If you are a regular rock climber then you have probably done harder hikes. This is the hardest hike I've ever done, anywhere.

Geronimo hid in these canyons to elude US Cavalry back in the 19th century. I totally see why. They are the most broke-horse canyon systems I've ever seen. I was scrambling on all fours to make it to the top, and losing traction. There were a few places where the use of climbing ropes was mandatory.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:09 PM   #3107
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LOL yeah that last hundred yards or so is STEEP. but it sure is worth it.

another real neat hike is to the other cliff ruins in the next canyon,,,, you actually come up the opposite side, then walk along a narrow ledge, under a waterfall (when its running) to get to the site.

i've been to 9 awesome ruins in the immediate area, spent a week and a half out there a few years ago.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:35 PM   #3108
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made it home finally. good long day, thanks guys.
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Old 01-26-2014, 12:03 AM   #3109
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Sorry I missed it, maybe we need a redux
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:43 AM   #3110
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Taz, you rock. Thanks for putting up with my slowness on the way back.

Repair costs aren't turning out to be nearly as bad as I thought they would be.


Question: I'm going to re-tire the 800XC. The Pirellis that it came with are terrible.

I think I want a wider front tire, and obviously also a more aggressive tread pattern as well. I may have to raise the front fender a bit, that's fine.

And I want something that really has some good bite on silted coliche on the rear tire, for better braking.

What are good tires for the ~450-500 pound class of bike, for riding AZ desert roads?
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:12 AM   #3111
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repair?

If there isn't any structural damage then leave it alone.

Just my opinion of course but we've seen this before. If you're going to be off roading (or even if you're not) the bike's gonna take spills.

You'd be better served from buying the parts and leaving them in the garage for when you go to sell the bike.

Enjoy your new bike without the worry.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:19 AM   #3112
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repair?

If there isn't any structural damage then leave it alone.

Just my opinion of course but we've seen this before. If you're going to be off roading (or even if you're not) the bike's gonna take spills.

You'd be better served from buying the parts and leaving them in the garage for when you go to sell the bike.

Enjoy your new bike without the worry.
Correct, but I broke the OEM plastic handguards, and the clutch lever, and the windshield mounts, and a turn signal.

Agreed about leaving the scuffed parts on and just having new ones when it's time to sell the bike.



Heidenau K60 Scout? Good stuff for 800XC? Will it give me better bite than the crap Pirellis in the pic above? And still ride on the highway at Interstate speed?
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:28 AM   #3113
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get barkbusters instead of the plastic handguards.

Did you completely sheer off the lever or just the ball? If just the ball then don't trow it out an keep it as a spare in your tool kit when you get a replacement.

The windshield mount? zip tie?

I have no idea about tires. I get the cheapest ones I get my hands on.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:55 AM   #3114
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get barkbusters instead of the plastic handguards.

Did you completely sheer off the lever or just the ball? If just the ball then don't trow it out an keep it as a spare in your tool kit when you get a replacement.

The windshield mount? zip tie?

I have no idea about tires. I get the cheapest ones I get my hands on.
The frame of the clutch lever is bent, and sheared off about 1.5" of the lever. And the clutch doesn't feel "right" now. I found a new one for $35, so not the end of the world.

Handguards, I went with these:

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...h-Turn-Signals

Takes care of the broken turn signal and the need to get better handguards in one step.

Cheaper tires, I'm looking at Full Bore. It's about a $100 difference between the K60's and the FB ($180 vs $280). Curious regarding longevity versus road and dirt handling of the peanut gallery here, keeping in mind the type of dirt we have here.


ETA: Looks like the K60 is "flatter" than the FB on the rear, meaning it'd probably be better in dirt for braking and in loose stuff. But it might also wear funky on the road since it hints at a flat spot even when new. Leaning towards the FB, unless someone can tell me they only got 2k miles or otherwise was let down by them.
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Old 01-26-2014, 11:06 AM   #3115
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I'd get either the Heidenau or the Mefo. Both seem to do well at highway speed on my 990.
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Old 01-26-2014, 11:29 AM   #3116
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I'd get either the Heidenau or the Mefo. Both seem to do well at highway speed on my 990.
The K-60 is a great tire for the big bikes handle well on and off rd. I get about 10,000 miles from a rear and my front has 18,500 on it now. Replacing it this week. TKC-80 is a good tire for the front but does not handle as well on the street and you will burn it up quick at 80 MPH. Just my opinion.
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Old 01-26-2014, 01:03 PM   #3117
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I'll try an IRC TR8 on front and a FB M40 on rear. $170 + shipping for the pair, the rear should wear at about the same rate as the front. FB M40 should be easier to pull off in the field than a K60 from what I hear, if that becomes necessary.
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Old 01-26-2014, 05:37 PM   #3118
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The K-60 is a great tire for the big bikes handle well on and off rd. I get about 10,000 miles from a rear and my front has 18,500 on it now. Replacing it this week. TKC-80 is a good tire for the front but does not handle as well on the street and you will burn it up quick at 80 MPH. Just my opinion.
10k on a rear and 18.5k on a front???!!!

Great google moogly you must be smooth. I'm ecstatic if I can get a k60 to go 3500 on the rear. The k60 rear and tkc front has been a good combo on the big bike. I like the 606 on the front better if I am mostly off road.


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Old 01-26-2014, 06:05 PM   #3119
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For high mileage I use the TKC80 front and the Heidenau K60 rear. I can get 4-5000 out of this combination.

For serious off road riding I prefer the Dunlop 606 up front with a Dunlop 908rr rear. I'm lucky to get 2500 miles out of this combination.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:43 PM   #3120
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Just mounted this Motoz HT Tractionator. Head out in the morning & plan putting maybe 500 on it in next two days. Will see how it wears?
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