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Old 03-26-2013, 03:34 PM   #781
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There is a group/company right now building a back road discovery route across Arizona.
http://www.butlermaps.com/
I have not ridden with these guys yet, since I'm nursing my big fat, old 1150 Adventure with a sick oil cooler thermostat and crap in the rear tire causing a slow leak and maybe a bad clutch or just the slave cylinder. All of which make leaving the comfort of my short commute a bad idea.


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Hey, guys: Got referred over to this thread courtesy of SWDSRC, from here:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...09358&page=572
What's the scoop?

Noob off-roader here, I own two bikes... a 2011 Shadow Phantom that I've put 13k on in the last year and a '94 XR600R that I bought VERY used that had this peculiar "ADVRIDER" decal on the back of it from some prior owner over the last 20 years or so. I've put about 500 miles on that bike and I'm looking for some friends to go rip up some desert and forest trails and enjoy AZ.

The XR is in fixer-upper condition right now and it'll be intermittently kicked up on a stand as I tackle one project or another, but she's running right now pretty happily. Projects to tackle in the next few months include stoopid-simple things like a new seat to replace the torn up original, to a carb rebuild mod I've heard about but never done myself to eliminate a sticky throttle when the thing gets hot (harder... never done a carb before). Also need to yank the existing speedo (craptastic bicycle one) and put on the Trailtech Vapor I have for it.

Goals with the XR are to turn it into something I can go fishing up on top of the Rim with no qualms, and have the trip cost me less than $10 gas for the day. Also want to learn the forest road network well enough that I can drive across the whole State of AZ without touching concrete.

Any good rides coming up?
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:30 PM   #782
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Paul,

This looks like a great ride, I could probably make this weekend but for a ride this long next weekend would be better for me. I just don't want to make anyone miss the best viewing of the falls so if the water flow is better this weekend I will be ok. I am also good with making a long weekend out of it, let's see what intrest we get and we can decide based on that.

Thanks for finding yet another cool location for everyone


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Old 03-26-2013, 08:40 PM   #783
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Too damn funny, At least I hope it was not on a guy
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:13 PM   #784
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I'd be up for this trip on the weekend of the 6th.
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:21 PM   #785
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Jay,

Glad to hear you can make it. I thought you might have left town on us.


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Old 03-26-2013, 09:47 PM   #786
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Thanks Bill. I've got a month and I gotta get another ride in with y'all before I bail.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:54 PM   #787
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Wow, that looks like a beautiful site.

Taking the XR on that long of a trip with its current seat should qualify me for an IBA number.

The following weekend would be best for me, too. April 6/7. Gives me one more week to at least get a better speedometer on the XR, though I probably can't do anything about the seat by then.

Anyone up for maybe a short run out somewhere simple and easy this weekend, out past AJ through Tortilla Flats and around Roosevelt? Just a couple of hours on Saturday morning?
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:16 AM   #788
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You might want to try the Stearns seat pad from Walmart on your XR. It made a big difference on my DRZ.

I was up to Roosevelt last Tuesday and there was a lot of slow traffic on the way back. May be even worse on a weekend, dunno. Post up what you decide, I might tag along.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:01 AM   #789
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Re: Stearns seat pad.

Evidently now marketed by Coleman rather than Stearns, still made by the same illiterate chinese peasants, probably. Located one on Amazon, ordered. I'll have it by Friday. Thanks for the heads up. Looks like a good addition to this bike, and should allow me to go a bit longer without spending $300 on a replacement Corbin seat.

I'll make Friday a garage-wrenching day, installing a Vector speedo on the bike and doing an oil change, strapping the seat pad on... riding on Saturday to test it all out. Maybe a spin up to Young through Globe, and back across Roosevelt to Hwy 87 would be more fun. I'm sure there's a forest road from Young to Gisela somewhere back there in the Sierra Anchas. I don't have my map book with me right now to check.


ETA: Looks like Coffeepot Rd in Gisela cuts across to NF-134/Walnut Creek Rd/NF-129 in Young. Looks interesting. About 50-60 miles across, by my guess.

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Old 03-27-2013, 10:52 AM   #790
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Welcome to ADVRider. In this thread you will find mostly rides that are noob and big bike friendly. There are a few of us that are "regulars" and there are dozens of people that either come and go or just drop in from out of town. Myself and Bill (Ibriding) have posted the most rides but encourage anyone to post rides here. A few of us rode last weekend and a few were out sick. I will most likely not post a ride until next weekend unless Bill is feeling like a million bucks and just has to ride. I would like to take a group ride to Grand Falls before it stops running.
Directions: From Flagstaff
Take I-40 east . Exit north at exit 211 the Winona exit. Go north on Co rd 394 for about 3 miles then take the turn right heading toward Leupp which is Co rd 505 or Leupp road. Then take a left on the dirt road which is Indian rte 70. It is likely not marked but there should be a sign for Grand Falls Church. The road snakes around quite a bit but is well graded and marked along the way as rte 70. The dirt road stops at the Little Colorado river which is at the top of the falls. There are Ramadas and places to park nearby. The dirt road is about 7 miles long max.

A few weeks ago it was flowing much more than this:
http://www.mikeolbinski.com/theblog/...thern-arizona/
This could be an all highway no interstate trip or we could through Young and Chevlon canyon in and make it a full weekend epic journey. Please let me know if there is any interest. Thanks, Paul

First off, thank you for posting a photo of mine :) Second...if you are going to do that, here's a few better ones haha :)

http://www.mikeolbinski.com/theblog/...ocolate-falls/
http://www.mikeolbinski.com/theblog/...eraphim-falls/

But I wanted to say that the flow is down from well over 1000 cfs to about 400cfs, which is still nice, but not "amazing". I think in the first photo you posted it was between 100-300 cfs.

Anyways, good luck to you guys, such an amazing spot in Arizona!
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:17 AM   #791
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Those are great shots. I take it those were not hand held shots.
I'll miss out on this though. This weekend I have to do the repair on the thermostat on the pfig, (aka Adventure) and the following weekend I ride it home to park it in the garage and drive a car back here for the rest of my short stay. The old bike is in need of some quality garage time. It seems sitting for seven months while I traveled by planes trains and automobiles did not satisfy the old girl's craving for my attentions. The tires should be on the door step at home in a couple of days along with the first of the clutch parts.
Unlike a normal motorcycle, replacing the clutch requires breaking the bike roughly in half. This clutch rotor does have 91,000 miles on it so I probably got my money out of that.
(GS riders are really just KLR riders dressed up for dinner)
We buy a $25K motorcycle then bitch about the cost of tires.

My grand scheme is to fix all the silly bits wrong, wring the thing to just past 200,000 miles then sell it and buy something orange. I'm still dodging between the 690 and the 990.
I normally live and work in Orange County and commute about 60 miles a day. That means any motorcycle has to be highway capable and really needs some hard bags, (stupid computers), though I have made due with soft luggage in the past. Hence my leaning toward the 690 enduro. That simpler and lighter thing sort of tugs at my logic. But, the reality is I spend 97% of my time on pavement.
By the end of summer I should be across that 200K barrier and into bikelessness, and waiting on Three Brothers to deliver my next, last motorcycle.

My wife didn't realize when I said this would be my last BMW that I was only referring to the marque not all motorcycles. I think that light flipped on last weekend.

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First off, thank you for posting a photo of mine :) Second...if you are going to do that, here's a few better ones haha :)

http://www.mikeolbinski.com/theblog/...ocolate-falls/
http://www.mikeolbinski.com/theblog/...eraphim-falls/

But I wanted to say that the flow is down from well over 1000 cfs to about 400cfs, which is still nice, but not "amazing". I think in the first photo you posted it was between 100-300 cfs.

Anyways, good luck to you guys, such an amazing spot in Arizona!
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Old 03-28-2013, 05:39 PM   #792
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I would be up for that ride on the 6th.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:44 AM   #793
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Having little time left here, now I'm thinking of taking advantage of this opportunity and seeing some sights while up there. I figured I'd split off at some point after the falls to hit Flagstaff, Sedona, Montezuma's castle and whatever else I find along the way and make a multi day trip out of it. If the group would also be interested in seeing any of this it would be a bonus and I'm really flexible. Backroads would be cool with me.

It's hotels for me as well. As much as I'd like to camp, all my gear is packed and in storage.

I guess I'm a modified 2A
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:04 PM   #794
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Jay,

If I had the extra vacation time I would love to make it a extended trip but I don't have any time I can use.


Paul,

I agree with ride 1 and option A, Please let us know the route you have in mind when you can.

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Old 03-30-2013, 08:31 PM   #795
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"Back roads" = paved?

If 1A is something I can pull off on my street bike, I'd rather take that instead of my XR.

But if we're going to take roads that warrant dual-sport/enduro bikes then I'd take that. Just be good to know whichever it is.

I prefer a 1-day ride that hits some terrain that makes the XR a better choice over a street bike. Willing to camp out, just have to find a dogsitter. Prefer not to.

Have the aftermarket seat pad on the XR, as well as the Trailtech speedometer. Some "interesting" installation issues on the speedometer, but nothing that won't make for good stories and still leave the bike operational.
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