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Old 05-14-2013, 01:39 PM   #991
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That being said I've heard really good things about the Veskimo. I'm just not sure I want to go that route just for commuting.
Just a little pricey for me.

On my trips around the country I've just soaked my t-shirt under my Joe Rocket textile jacket with vents, not mesh. At dawn it was too cool for mesh, so I only needed 1 jacket. Jim
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:12 PM   #992
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Just a little pricey for me.

On my trips around the country I've just soaked my t-shirt under my Joe Rocket textile jacket with vents, not mesh. At dawn it was too cool for mesh, so I only needed 1 jacket. Jim
I've done the wet t-shirt thing No, not that wet t-shirt and it evaporates a lot faster than the vest. However, free is always good.

Once it gets over 100 you're actually supposed to close all your vents because you're not doing your body temps any favors by getting blasts of air that are over your normal body temp. But it is so much cooler when you've got the vest on with mesh clothing.

That TechNiche thing looks interesting. But until my current vest dies (and it works great), I'm sticking with it.
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:03 PM   #993
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I know this is not the for sale area, but just to give you fellow east siders a heads up....my buddy in Alaska who stores bikes in my garage is selling his 2009 Husky TE250. If anyone is interested before we post it to the world, get back to me here on advrider. I can give you further details.

Regarding keeping cool, there is a lot of discussion in other sections here about using LD comfort undergarments soaked in water. Apparently, and counter-intuitive, the trick is to not wear mesh, but to wear your normal jacket with the wrist zippers opened up to create a kind of controlled flow for evaporation. Sounds crazy, but I'm going to try it in the next couple of days, before heading off to Laguna Seca in July. Until now I have just worn soaked underarmor shirts with the mesh jacket. I have and love my LD comfort stuff, but I've never tried this soaking trick before.

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Old 05-14-2013, 06:13 PM   #994
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I'm sure your know that "THOSE TWO"(BILL & PAUL) supposedly went to Spain,road around with Sergio, had a good time without us & then come home & NO ride report, NO pictures,NO comment on what a good time they had other than" Spain kicks ass"---REALLY?
I don't believe any of it, according to the rules no pix, "IT DIDN'T HAPPEN". I think that's the real deal,so how about you, you buyin this BS that Spain kicks ass?
I don't buy it for a minute. They probably road scooters for a day and then drank wine the rest of the time and talked about riding.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:14 PM   #995
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A soaked sweat shirt holds a lot more water. I use it every time I descend off the rim.
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:24 PM   #996
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Ok, some slack given

Bill:
Well since you're still there I guess you have some slack coming, However you have made a commitment to all of adv erdom that there WILL be a report & pictures so your feet will be on the fire for that.
Sounds like you're having a good time Be sure to tell Sergio hi from us desert rats & have a safe trip back see ya all soon .
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:31 PM   #997
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don't let up. I wanna see some pics. .
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:38 PM   #998
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...the trick is to not wear mesh, but to wear your normal jacket with the wrist zippers opened up to create a kind of controlled flow for evaporation. Sounds crazy, but I'm going to try it in the next couple of days, before heading off to Laguna Seca in July....
Not crazy at all. It's well documented. The more air you let in the faster you'll dry out. What you want is a barrier from the hot air and the ability to retain sweat. If you're just wearing mesh with no vest you'll dry out in minutes. Wearing textiles and closing your vents simply prolongs the time you have moisture on your body.

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A soaked sweat shirt holds a lot more water. I use it every time I descend off the rim.
Interesting. Never tried that but seems logical. However, I'm not sure it's such a great idea riding in to work in a soaking wet sweatshirt.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:27 AM   #999
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I promise to be good and post many details. Got back from the bar at 2:00AM after meeting a group of Sergio's friends and riding amigos. A great time was had by all....

Jeff,

I will tell Sergio you said hello for sure.


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Old 05-15-2013, 06:53 AM   #1000
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Fly Racing Mens Cooling Vest Silver Extra Large XL

I ended up getting a cooling vest on amazon for 35 dollars with prime shipping.

I would much rather ride in the heat with a cooling vest and no snowbirds than deal with the craziness I had a few months ago.

Fountain Hills is out of control after work.
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:03 AM   #1001
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I ended up getting a cooling vest on amazon for 35 dollars with prime shipping.

I would much rather ride in the heat with a cooling vest and no snowbirds than deal with the craziness I had a few months ago.

Fountain Hills is out of control after work.
Amazon.....hmmmmm......heading that way now to check it out. I have many Amazon points....
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:54 AM   #1002
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I ended up getting a cooling vest on amazon for 35 dollars with prime shipping.

I would much rather ride in the heat with a cooling vest and no snowbirds than deal with the craziness I had a few months ago.

Fountain Hills is out of control after work.
I think you'll like it. The trick is to know just how much water you actually have to put on it to arrive at your destination dry. At least, for commuting, it's the way to do it so you don't arrive to work with wet clothes. I have a 45 minute commute and I only soak the front part of the vest. Once soaked I roll it up and squeeze it so it wets just a bit of the back of the vest but not to where it's soaked. When I arrive the vest is almost dry. Comfortable enough for the duration of the trip but not soaking wet. Works for me.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:03 AM   #1003
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Here's a new way to stay cool - come up north!

For those of you thinking of coming up for the Overland Expo this weekend...
Help with some local Flagstaff trail building and get a free Sunday pass to the Expo!!
Coconino Trail Riders Trail Day this SATURDAY MAY 18
Starts at 8:30 AM, ends with lunch.
Take Lake Mary rd southeast from Flagstaff - same road to the Expo.
Go about 2 miles to Frontier Rd and turn right
About 1/2 mile to FS 3E then Left to the Staging Area
There will be signs pointing the way
Participants get a Coconino Trail Rider Tshirt, lunch, Rocky Mountain Race Gas coupon and a Sunday pass to the Overland Expo
A big thank you to the Overland Expo for supporting us!!
We're starting work on the NEW Kelly Canyon Motorized Trails project.
Come prepared to dig some dirt. Tools provided.
Google Map link: http://goo.gl/maps/ZG4Lq
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:22 AM   #1004
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Spain 2013

Hello Guys, Bill, Jack, and I just got back from Spain. We had many days with very limited time and no internet, so sorry for the delay. Sergio was happy to hear from you Jeff. We did a total of 13days in Spain. We rode 10 of the days and put about 3,500 kilometers on our rented BMW G650GS bikes. We rented them from IMT Bike in Valencia Spain. I am still uploading pics, I started a story board here: http://s1176.photobucket.com/user/ra...l/story/16333#
Try this one I exceeded my limit...oops : http://eastofphoenix.shutterfly.com/pictures/1379
The bikes were very comfortable and rode very nicely for the style of riding. I think bigger bikes would have been harder on the massively twisty roads, and smaller bikes would have been wound out at max RPM the whole trip. I got mine up to 165 KPH and it seemed to have a little more to give. On the highways we held it around 120 and the back roads 100 on the straights and 60-80 on the twisties.
We started in Barcelona and headed up to the mountains. The first night we spent the evening in Santa Pau. It was a small village of about 2k people and we stayed in a guest apartment that was built in the 1600's. We had a nice dinner at a local pub with plenty of beer, wine, and eats.
After a traditional Spanish breakfast of toasted white bread and coffee, we are off to our next destination. The day is long and the scenery goes from forest Alpine to desert flat lands and farm roads. We rode about 450 kms to a Sanctuary with barrack style rooms. It reminded me of the Army barracks in Germany in our rooms, but the outside was a 16th century Roman Catholic Sanctuary built to house the faithful and protect them from the Moors. As we rode up the hill to the place we saw Vulture circling above. Inside we were greeted by the Innkeeper who showed us around the old chapel and holy grounds. Our evening meal was prepared by a Romanian couple that made us a full meal with many courses. Due to my dietary restrictions they happily substituted the pork main dish for fish. They left and locked the place up when we were finished eating and we had the place to ourselves. Jack, of course, asked the Innkeeper if the place was haunted before he left and he assured us that the ghosts were all friendly.
The next morning I found a side door to the outside world and walked around the grounds during sunrise. A while later a lady was dropped off and opened the front door and made us breakfast. After breakfast we packed up and Sergio gave her a ride into the village on the back of his bike. (He was on his own BMW 800GS) We rode along the desert floor and headed along to an oasis of sorts. The land and scenery changed rapidly and we arrived at the area of the Monastery at Piedra. We visited a national park that was awe inspiring. The waterfalls and scenery were breathtaking. We later agreed that this was quite possibly the best thing we saw on the trip (Well except the prostitute on the roadside with no pants on) As we climbed the waterfalls the moist warm air made us short of breath and we wheezed our way through the park. The main waterfall had an area that looked like a scene from the movie "Goonies" where One Eyed Willy's treasure ship was anchored. (I still wonder if Spielberg had visited this place for inspiration). After a short visit at the park we stopped for a lavish meal at a roadside hotel. The owner was happy to see bikers and showed us his prize possession. It was a 1979 Kawasaki Z1300 in line six. It had developed a hole in the case near the exhaust and he is trying to find a "passionate" mechanic to repair it. After lunch we rode major twisties to the ancient city of Alberracin. We stayed in a little guest house that was a pretty good hike up the mountain with our gear. The evening was filled with walking up and down through the castle walled city and many good libations.
The next morning we were fed by the innkeeper the traditional toast and coffee. We rode twisty roads for a while and then visited Cuenca the town with "Hanging Houses". We took a brief look at them and then hit mainly highways to the city of Toledo. In Toledo we stayed in a newly remodeled downtown hotel. The city was abuzz with political activity and we even walked through a major political rally in progress. We visited the shops in the area and an ancient Synagogue that was turned into a museum. The town had a very big theme of all religions getting along and they displayed it everywhere. Most of the restaurants were packed, so we went to a touristy place that had mediocre eats.
The next day and a half we rode to Sergio's parent's house where we were fed like kings. They live in the olive farm town of Sabar. His brother is a Rover fan and has several old Rovers. We did a bit of 4 wheeling in one of his rigs.
The following day we went to a small seaside town near Malaga. We had one of the best dishes of the trip. It was called Pil Pil. Meant to be an appetizer we enjoyed the spicy marinara sauce and fresh prawn immensely. the Sangria was excellent as well. Later at Sergio's parents place we ate until we nearly burst and then drank enough to put us to sleep for the night.
The next morning we got up early and headed to Alhambra. The ancient fortress of the Moors. We spent much of the day on a giuded tour of the fortress and then ate and drank ourselves stupid before riding to a 5 star hotel near Almeria.
The next morning we road along the seaside and visited many overlooks and rode along beaches. I noticed that many of the young ladies preferred little or no clothing and I will say that I did appreciate the natural beauty that Spain had to offer. After a long day of riding we arrived in San Pedra del Pinatar. A seaside community of about 25k people. We had a room that faced the beach but it was midly overcast and not much of the day left when we arrived. We had pizza at a local place run by Italians and it was very good. Sergio was fairly disgusted that Bill and I took the leftovers back to the hotel.
The next morning Sergio and Jack had boring toast and coffee, while Bill and I feasted on the cold pizza. We rode mostly highways to Valencia. Along one of the tollways, Bill was exiting the toll booth and his clutch cable snapped. Sergio had a little smile on his face as he went to work with his tool set. He had all sorts of cable repair kits and made quick work of the repair. He seemed almost proud that he had prepared for this moment. A little while later we had a fairly nice show of prostitutes along the roadside. The all had nice little plastic chairs and were displaying their wares quite nicely. We arrived a while later at Sergio's house and cleaned up for our meeting with his Moto group. In the city we met with Sergio's Moto friends at a bar called the Bierwinkel. Every single person there was nice as pie to us and we ate and drank until wee hours of the night. After the bar closed a few of the guys showed off their inebriated bravado and rode up and down stairs. This was a very cool night indeed.
The next morning we ate breakfast with Laura (Sergio's wife) and she drove us to town. We looked around for a while and drank much strong coffee. Sergio picked us up after a while and we went to an island town nearby for Paiella. We tried several types and then tried to walk with a full gut. We looked around the area a bit and headed to a grocery store. I was yelled at by the store manager for taking a picture of a red bell pepper. I asked her if it was considered veggie porn and she didn't seem to have a sense of humor about it. In any case the peppers were like the size of a pumpkin. Later we had dinner at Sergio's and hit the sack.
The next morning we headed out for Barcelona. Riding on our own we took a slower pace and stopped more often for coffee and views along the way. At a gas station we ran into a cop with a scooter and Jack chatted him up a bit. In Barcelona we parked the bikes and rode the bus into the city. We learned that Heroin and Hookers were everywhere to be had but we couldn't find Bill a chocolate churro to save our lives. After dinner we took a taxi to the hotel and crashed out for the night.
In the morning we began our journey to locate the bike rental shop. Let me begin by saying that Barcelona is a huge city that has a map like a bowl of spaghetti. After getting lost for a while. I came across a mechanic in a shop that had some bikes out front. He looked like Luigi from Supermario. He said he knew the area well and we tried to follow him on his scooter. After running a few red lights we started keeping up and even he had to stop twice for directions before finding the place. The agent had taken off early so we ended up hanging out nearby for several hours until he got his message and returned to the shop. After checking in the bikes we went back to our hotel and had a nice dinner.
The next morning we all flew home and were happy to leave even though we had a great time, it was a bit of a tiring pace. Thanks to Sergio for the great ADVenture!

The pics should upload soon and I will have more time to organize and name soon so you can tell which is which. Hopefully Jack and Bill will ad some and correct where I erred. -Paul

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Old 05-19-2013, 01:14 PM   #1005
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Paul,

I think we were working this at the same time.

I posted my info here for anyone intrested.

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