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Old 06-03-2013, 08:56 AM   #1081
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Thank you for all of the info.

I was planning on doing an out and back from cave creek road up to the T and then turn right on FR 269 (Bloody Basin). Once I get to the bridge I wanted to take a few pictures and then turn around (not planning on crossing). Then I will turn around and head back.

Will this plan dodge all the tech?
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:02 AM   #1082
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Thank you for all of the info.

I was planning on doing an out and back from cave creek road up to the T and then turn right on FR 269 (Bloody Basin). Once I get to the bridge I wanted to take a few pictures and then turn around (not planning on crossing). Then I will turn around and head back.

Will this plan dodge all the tech?
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Old 06-03-2013, 05:00 PM   #1083
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Sheeps Crossing

Thanks for the info looks like I might try this run this Fri if work lets up and I can get away. My Plan is to bypass 7 springs as it adds about 50 miles to the trip. I made a short run out to Horseshoe Dam a few weekends back and am pretty sure I can cross the river by the ranch if not I plan on crossing the Dam by way of the ped. walkway tight fit but I am sure i can squeeze the KLR around the corners. I have watched a few videos of the steep rocky hill up to the bridge. I will make the call to climb that once I see it in person. If not there looks to be a few places to cross around sheeps bridge. My plans are to stay out for one night and find a place to camp either at the bridge or between the bridge and Bloody Basin. Then roll out I17 and head home.

How is Bloody basin Rd? I assume it is pretty good road as it is high clearance 2WD rated.

Also is there a good shaded area between the bridge and bloody basin to stay with out baking?

I am really looking forward to this run after my short H.S. dam ride Never really rode this area and it seems like it has a great varity of surfaces.
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Old 06-03-2013, 05:33 PM   #1084
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I have a 2WD Jeep Patriot. (Front wheel drive station wagon) and did 7 springs and bloody basin never bottomed out once and was fairly easy the whole way.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:02 PM   #1085
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Nervous Nelly

OK, I am going play the part of a nervous Nelly to some of the Noobs to the area. The desert can be very unforgiving in the Summer months.

Take plenty of water, travel with a riding buddy, have a Spot indicator and GPS, carry extra tubes, tools, med kit, asst of nut & bolts, 2 part epoxy putty, protect all vulnerable areas of the bike with guards, take a cell (sat phone in remote areas - not for this area), and protective boots / gear.......

Oh yeah, and ride like you stole it

Sheep's Crossing is a great ride to get acquainted with our area! Enjoy
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:14 PM   #1086
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Maybe a change of underware too??

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Old 06-03-2013, 06:23 PM   #1087
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Maybe a change of underware too??

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Old 06-03-2013, 06:39 PM   #1088
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OK, I am going play the part of a nervous Nelly to some of the Noobs to the area. The desert can be very unforgiving in the Summer months.

Take plenty of water, travel with a riding buddy, have a Spot indicator and GPS, carry extra tubes, tools, med kit, asst of nut & bolts, 2 part epoxy putty, protect all vulnerable areas of the bike with guards, take a cell (sat phone in remote areas - not for this area), and protective boots / gear.......

Oh yeah, and ride like you stole it

Sheep's Crossing is a great ride to get acquainted with our area! Enjoy
Thanks for the advise I will not be taking this trip alone. My brother and I ride together most of the time and rarly ride by ourselves. I agree with you on the AZ heat we have been riding AZ for quite a while just not that neck of the woods. As far as gear we could more than likely rebuild his XT600 and My KLR with what I carry. I have been an outdoor advocate for many years and am the type to over pack for the just in case senerios.

As far as underware doesn't everyone carry an extra set in their pocket for emergencys
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:26 PM   #1089
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If I were doing the two days as you are planning I would suggest this.

The ride from Bartlett to Horse Shoe Dam and around isn't that special at all. I would run Seven Springs and then take Bloody Basin down to the river and camp there the night. This will give you the coolest night time temps by the river and a great place to camp. Also taking in the best views as you head down to the bridge. Then in the morning ride Bloody Basin all the way out and you would have a great trip for the area you are wanting to ride. It's your trip so have fun.
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Old 06-04-2013, 01:43 PM   #1090
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If I were doing the two days as you are planning I would suggest this.

The ride from Bartlett to Horse Shoe Dam and around isn't that special at all. I would run Seven Springs and then take Bloody Basin down to the river and camp there the night. This will give you the coolest night time temps by the river and a great place to camp. Also taking in the best views as you head down to the bridge. Then in the morning ride Bloody Basin all the way out and you would have a great trip for the area you are wanting to ride. It's your trip so have fun.
That is the camping trip that I want to do. Do you need a permit to stay overnight out there?
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Old 06-04-2013, 04:40 PM   #1091
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That is the camping trip that I want to do. Do you need a permit to stay overnight out there?
I don't think so but someone with more knowledge on this topic can hopefully give you a definate answer. I would camp there without even thinking about it.
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:46 PM   #1092
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I don't think so but someone with more knowledge on this topic can hopefully give you a definate answer. I would camp there without even thinking about it.

At very worst case you might need a Tonto Pass but i think it is far enough out that you would be ok. I carry one in the bike at all times after getting a stern talking to by a sheriff one time out by the salt river while making a 10 drink stop at one of the rec sites.
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:05 PM   #1093
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Good call. I will just stick a day pass in my tool pouch and then scatch it if I ever get talked to.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:18 PM   #1094
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Remember when 4 stroke motorcycles became popular because they get better fuel economy and pollute less. Well, if you haven't heard a guy in India has successfully patented the 6 stroke and claims that the jump in fuel economy and reduction in hydrocarbon emissions is nearly as significant from 4 to 6 stroke as it was 2 to 4 stroke. I thought it was interesting. Here is an animation of the way the concept works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkAD34nsTdk
I am wondering if they add more valves and water/alcohol injection if they cant really reduce HCs and increase fuel economy... just a thought. Oh, this was interesting too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ86A1O9OcM
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:25 PM   #1095
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I think the death of the 2 stroke had more to do with companies pushing 4 stroke engines than any real pollution problems. They could make 2 stroke engines pretty efficient. But that's a whole nother rant.
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