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Old 11-29-2010, 01:49 PM   #151
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How does the trans work out? If you gear it to work alright on trails,, does it run out of breath on the street?
i wonder if the 650 shares the clutch with any other model and or if an autoclutch is available
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:44 AM   #152
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i wonder if the 650 shares the clutch with any other model and or if an autoclutch is available
Is a slipper the same as an auto? BRP yoyodyne slipper
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:47 AM   #153
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How does the trans work out? If you gear it to work alright on trails,, does it run out of breath on the street?
That what's so cool about this bike. Single track one minute, 80 on the hwy the next.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:22 PM   #154
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Is a slipper the same as an auto? BRP yoyodyne slipper

I *believe* a slipper clutch is just a uni-directional clutch. Basically, it's a normal engagement when accelerating or maintaining speed, but when downshifting it will allow a certain amount if slip if you're ham-fisted on the clutch or don't rev-match, preventing the rear wheel from locking up on big-displacement twins. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slipper_clutch

It's kinda like a sprag clutch for helicopters, allows the rotor system to freewheel if the engine stops.
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Old 12-05-2010, 09:16 AM   #155
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love this...

have you guys that have completed mutants put any on a scale?
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Yes, 350lbs without gas before I put on the luggage racks.
This is what mine weighed on our shipping scale at work with the fuel tank empty, the bike stripped of the "Ninja garb".



It was just a little more when I was done but I don't remember the exact number.

About power... I started with the stock gearing and never felt a need to change it. The nice thing about this motor is that it makes respectable power right off of idle and gets really fun when you rev it!

I wanted to build what repsolrider has built but lacked the attention span and a place to do it. Very nice job ;-)
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Old 12-05-2010, 10:41 PM   #156
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It appears to me the biggest weakness of the 650 motor off road is that dangly oil drain. One medium sized rock or miscalculated ledge will really ruin your day. Has anyone come up with a solution? I don't see any way of mounting a bash plate that would take the weight of the bike.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:42 AM   #157
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It appears to me the biggest weakness of the 650 motor off road is that dangly oil drain. One medium sized rock or miscalculated ledge will really ruin your day. Has anyone come up with a solution? I don't see any way of mounting a bash plate that would take the weight of the bike.
I am thinking of building a pair of lower frame tubes. These would be mounted at the front engine mount point and the tube the muffler mount is on. It will take a bit of fabrication and add some unwanted weight. But it is doable.
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:31 PM   #158
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I've seen one on a muntant but unsure how he did it. Not sure if the klre addressed this point or not. Ther's a post on here about that problem and itseems like there was some oil channels cast into that lower section
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:49 PM   #159
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I am the one who cut off the extension of the oil pan where the drain plug sits. There is an additional channel that comes in from the side.

Still, quite a bit of clearance could be gained by modding the oil pan somehow.
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:07 PM   #160
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I've seen one on a muntant but unsure how he did it. Not sure if the klre addressed this point or not. Ther's a post on here about that problem and itseems like there was some oil channels cast into that lower section
The oil passage is a drain from the screen bowl to assist in draining oil.

I took the entire thing off and relocated the drain to the low or side stand side .
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:10 PM   #161
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Got a pic of it?
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:01 AM   #162
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The oil passage is a drain from the screen bowl to assist in draining oil.

I took the entire thing off and relocated the drain to the low or side stand side .
Nice! I didn't find a picture of that in your Smugmug album, would be cool if you could post one. Simply machined the protrusion off and welded up the hole?

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Old 12-07-2010, 09:26 PM   #163
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Nice! I didn't find a picture of that in your Smugmug album, would be cool if you could post one. Simply machined the protrusion off and welded up the hole?

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Old 12-08-2010, 05:21 AM   #164
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sweet, like the idea alot. No drain plug on the bottom to hit
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Old 12-08-2010, 06:40 AM   #165
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It would be bothersome to have to pull the skidplate for oil changes but it's easy enough to remove. No big deal! The drain is on the kickstand side of the bike, so all the oil flows out. Simple and easy! I like it too!

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