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Old 11-11-2010, 10:46 AM   #16
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I don't see anything in the table of contents about valves. Would be nice to see something there. Can anyone confirm this?
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:52 PM   #17
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Tried getting the manual through local shop 2 weeks ago, back ordered.
Tried ordering through Haynes website, but can't get any of my credit cards to work, and they don't respond to e mails.
Any other places to get the manual?
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:36 PM   #18
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Ordered mine from the UK off Ebay should be here in a few days.
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:01 PM   #19
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Ordered from the Haynes web site, got it Tuesday, just took a few days.

Yes, it has wiring diagrams, valve adjustment and some diagnostics.

And it's a hard cover
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Old 11-12-2010, 05:34 PM   #20
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Ordered from the Haynes web site, got it Tuesday, just took a few days.

Yes, it has wiring diagrams, valve adjustment and some diagnostics.

And it's a hard cover
After 3 tries on their website, I called to order. Told a week to 10 days. Guess it's worth the wait.
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Old 11-12-2010, 05:40 PM   #21
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After 3 tries on their website, I called to order. Told a week to 10 days. Guess it's worth the wait.
I wonder if you are at the same web site?

BMW Motorcycle Repair Manuals

It acts like it would let me order another one today.
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Old 11-12-2010, 06:34 PM   #22
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I wonder if you are at the same web site?

BMW Motorcycle Repair Manuals

It acts like it would let me order another one today.
Yea, same site. I got all the way through to last step in check out. Kept saying "card refused".

Asked the very helpful girl on the phone about that, she said their cc checkout is 'very sensitive'. Maybe that is a good thing, for security. Although I spend thousands with my cc every year on the interweb with no problems.

When I ordered this morning, she tells me it won't ship out till Monday, then a week to 10 days to me. From Nashville TN!! Must be nice to be so big, and not give a crap about your customers.

Sorry to rant. If I wanted it that bad, could have rode down to pick it up
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:45 PM   #23
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[quote=AlanI]Not sure that I follow your reasoning here. The only difference between the Haynes manual and the bikes manual that I can see is that the latter advocates using a screwdriver and pushing down on the chain before pushing it up as shown in the Haynes manual.


You are right that it does not make a big difference, but it does make a measurable one if you are being careful. For the sake of this conversation I went and measured my chain slack (and found it's time to tighten it up, my ears had been telling me that anyway). What I found is that if I measure it Haynes' way, just pushing it up, I've got 4.5cm of slack which is the outer limit. If I then follow BMW's instructions to push down on the chain, that gets me another 1.3cm = 5.8cm total. Expereince would tell a careful person that the book couldn't be trusted to the last mm on this issue at least.

As someone else said, it's stuff like torque values & valve lash that you really hope are right, but these are all measurements . . . I'm hoping values given elsewhere are accurate, that's all I'm saying.

Sill glad to have the book.
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Old 11-14-2010, 05:55 AM   #24
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I'll probably order a Haynes, though I've never used one before. I've always had a Clymers for most of my bikes. They are great. And Yamaha usually has excellent service manuals available for their bikes.

I did buy the BMW CD from the dealer when I purchased the bike. For that ridiculous price, I was surely expecting something terrific. Well, it just plain SUCKS (squared). The viewing experience was like this:

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Old 11-14-2010, 07:46 PM   #25
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Wow, that's one hell of a slack chain you've got there. I take it that you have the bike on the side stand before measuring?

My chain (relatively new) has 40mm of slack and pushing down on it as per the BMW handbook yields only a further 2mm not the 13mm that you are reporting.
I don't know what the Haynes manual says, because I don't have one yet, But the BMW Rider's Manual (Owner's Handbook) says to measure the difference between the chain pushed up snug and pushed down snug. This is the normal way.
Two things that weren't specified that should be remembered:
1. measure the same point on the chain in the up and down postions, such as the center of a pin. (Not the bottom edge when up and the top edge when down).
2. Put the bike in neutral when taking the measurement. If you don't you may have some slack on the top run and will get a tighter measurement than is true.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:24 AM   #26
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Heads up for canadians... this manual can be ordered through kelly@accentpublications.ca or phone 1800 567 7243. they do not stock it but turnaround is reasonable and mine should arrive early next week. Not affiliated just for info...
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Old 11-19-2010, 09:00 AM   #27
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Is the BMW service manual not adequate enough?
If you were to buy one manual, what would it be: service or Haynes?
Thanks.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:23 PM   #28
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Got mine from Haynes. I like the pictures. I don't think they have em for the BMW service manual. Dave
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:31 PM   #29
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Umm... the BMW service manual has many pictures and they are very clear. I have the Haynes for my SV650SF and I like the BMW REPROM better. After I heard there was incorrect information in the BMW Haynes manual I'm not going to get it, sticking with my expensive DVD....

EDIT: The BMW CD has exploded diagrams and CAD models which I will take over pictures any day.
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Old 12-06-2010, 06:17 PM   #30
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Haynes manual ... for less...

I found this website:

http://www.themotorbookstore.com/click1.html

At my prompting they are going to order the manual for the twins.
Once in stock it will be posted to the website.

I may wait for the second edition, but will probably get it at the discount price ... For $30 or so bucks I'd like to have a "second opinion" even though I do hve the RepRom...
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