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Old 07-11-2013, 09:37 PM   #931
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Any good stealth camping up there or rustic camp sites?I'll be sleeping in a hammock by then.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:37 PM   #932
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If all goes as planned,I'm hoping to pick up a new Honda Grom, and farkle it over winter,for a trip around the BRT next spring.
You are a masochist . Plenty of dispersed camping all over the JNF and GWNF - with plenty of campgrounds highlighted in the data set.

The Grom has about 4" of suspension travel. Neat bikes - but so far from practical for this route. You would be much better suited by a $1200 XT225, DR350, XR250L etc etc.
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:06 AM   #933
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Over the last 3 weeks we have ridden most of the BRT from just east of I-77 to just west of Staunton (around Deerfield). No GPS, so we worked off of various maps and generally had a great time wandering around. Buchanan was a good base station for 2 days this past week. Hope to get back up and check out the "upper" remaining part soon (particularly if things dry out just a bit - 80 miles in the rain Wednesday to get back to the motel).

We were already pretty familiar with the Damascus to Big Walker to Burkes Garden section, but the rest was new for these NC boys.

Thanks for putting all this together.
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Old 07-12-2013, 02:26 PM   #934
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Error cooled , I sent you a few pm's with my email did you get them or am I doing something wrong. Anyway I would love the tracks. Thanks for your hard work.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:57 PM   #935
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Same here Ken. I was hoping it wasn't just my smell!
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:49 PM   #936
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I havnt had a chance to ride it yet but Im workin on some dirt road routes across the southern part of VA and really appreciate the work you put into this.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:46 AM   #937
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Links to road closures in that area due to storms.


http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/gwj/ne...TELPRDB5428105
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:45 AM   #938
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Please send me a copy of the GDB for your BRT. It sounds terrific.

I've been riding Off Road & Dual Sport in this region for over 40 years. From reading the ride reports, I can tell that I've ridden many of the roads & trails, but I'm interested to see the routes that I haven't found.

Many of the old trails that we used to ride have been closed by the USFS, but some are now open for seasonal use. It sounds like you're on top of these.

I have a GDB that may be of some use to you: gravel/ dirt roads from Va County maps transposed onto Mapsource. I don't have all of Virginia transposed yet, but to date, the GDB included most of the counties near the Blue Ridge. This GDB also
shows USFS trails from MVUM maps. Let me know if you have any interest & I'll send it to you.

I just started a similar mapping. project for WVa. The WVa County maps are amazingly accurate. Until discovering these a few years ago, we almost always ended up at dead ends or gates in WVa. Now, we've had several successful thru trips on 80% dirt & gravel. We've found that WVa dirt/gravel county roads can be much more primitive than their Va counterparts. Nearly all Va gravel Va county roads are graded smooth these days. Their WVa counterparts are often much more fun.

A few friends & I currently start most of our rides from my cabin near Roseville, Va. I used to live & ride from Blacksburg & Salem, so I know the central part of the state the best. However, I've ridden dual sport bikes up & down the Appalachians from Ga. to Goose Bay & know a little bit about areas outside of central Va.

In the old days, I would race a bike for a few years, then convert it to a dual sport. My dual sports included a plated Ossa Pioneer, then a plated Hodaka 125, then a plated Maico Wide Ratio 400, then a plated Husky WR390 w/ a home made front disc brake. On each of them, I installed big tanks & tall gearing & fabbed some sort of luggage rack. Except for the hassle of mixing oil, they were all pretty good dual sports.

The 390 was the most versatile because it was reliable & had a 6 speed wide ratio gear box, but it vibrated more than the others. The Maico was pretty smooth & got surprisingly good fuel mileage, but it was only a 4 speed. It had a rare wide ratio enduro gear box, but it still revved too much on the highway. I wasn't a very good mechanic when I rode the Ossa & it often left me stranded. It only got about 30-35 mpg w/ a 3 gallon tank, so between mechanical issues & fueling up all the time, I couldn't ride it very far. The Hodaka didn't have enough power to keep up w/ traffic w/o revving the hell out of it. Still it was a lot of fun as long as I kept a fresh piston & rings in it.

For the last 15 yrs, I've mostly ridden a bunch of DR350s that have been pieced together from '90, '96, '98 & '99 versions. Parts of my current DR probably have over 100k miles, but the current engine only has about 10k on it. The DRs have been terrific & a lot of fun. The DR isn't much faster than the Hodaka, but it runs smoothly & gets great fuel mileage. With a big tank, big seat & big front brake I've been able to ride it on a bunch of 3-4k mile trips. Most of my recent riding has been 1-2 day round trips from Roseville.

Hope to see you on the trail.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:33 AM   #939
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Hey porterrad, I had to pull out the VA Atlas & Gazetteer to find out where Roseland is.

I have a place about 20 miles SW of Monterey, VA. If you are ever in this area, give me a shout and I can probably show you some new country. I've been riding dirt bikes for 46 years so we should have a lot in common.
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:14 PM   #940
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I just caught up on a long back log - and got the files out to 35 folks. Check your spam folder if you have not seen it. If you didn't send me your email in the PM I don't have a way to get it to you.

I had to make some changes in the Mt. Rogers NRA area north of Damascus. It's all single track there - and the error could cause problems for those navigating and get folks on foot trails.

I appreciate everyone's patience - and the new files are corrected and up to date.

I want to add some Fall options to the file and also some more trail alts that branch off the parkway itself. I have the routes but getting them out cleanly will take some more time in front of the PC.

I hope folks are getting out there and riding. Safe trails everyone
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:18 PM   #941
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I have a GDB that may be of some use to you: gravel/ dirt roads from Va County maps transposed onto Mapsource. I don't have all of Virginia transposed yet, but to date, the GDB included most of the counties near the Blue Ridge. This GDB also
shows USFS trails from MVUM maps. Let me know if you have any interest & I'll send it to you.
Good stuff. In getting this project started I got some assistance from the USFS and was able to digitize the MVUM from GIS data into a Garmin Mapsource / Basecamp file.

Always interested in seeing others mapping projects.


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I just started a similar mapping. project for WVa. The WVa County maps are amazingly accurate. Until discovering these a few years ago, we almost always ended up at dead ends or gates in WVa. Now, we've had several successful thru trips on 80% dirt & gravel. We've found that WVa dirt/gravel county roads can be much more primitive than their Va counterparts. Nearly all Va gravel Va county roads are graded smooth these days. Their WVa counterparts are often much more fun.
"Impassable" is quite possible the best classification - thanks WVDOT

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For the last 15 yrs, I've mostly ridden a bunch of DR350s that have been pieced together from '90, '96, '98 & '99 versions. Parts of my current DR probably have over 100k miles, but the current engine only has about 10k on it. The DRs have been terrific & a lot of fun. The DR isn't much faster than the Hodaka, but it runs smoothly & gets great fuel mileage. With a big tank, big seat & big front brake I've been able to ride it on a bunch of 3-4k mile trips. Most of my recent riding has been 1-2 day round trips from Roseville.
Great bikes - the DR350.

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Hope to see you on the trail.
Likewise.
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:27 PM   #942
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Got the files thanks much. Looking forward to a great ride.
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:33 PM   #943
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Awesome! Just got the files! This has motivated me to get the DRZ up and going!
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:33 PM   #944
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Got the files. Thanks for all your hard work. If you ever need anything up in md let me know.
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:37 PM   #945
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Hey porterrad, I had to pull out the VA Atlas & Gazetteer to find out where Roseland is.
I just did the same.

Great option to get back in the mountains from Roseland would be FR1167 - Coon Bridge - back to Alhambra and south of Shoe Creek. This is one of the roads I will throw in next update.
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