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Old 08-06-2011, 05:43 AM   #1096
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Thank you so much for doing this! I have an 07 so it won't help mine but it will be nice to be able to see the changes you have made in comparison to the stock map to give me some idea of how it is accomplished.
Just trying to help.
I figure these two maps should be a good start for the two more common exhaust configurations.

Take a good look at the ignition tables, as well as the F_L Switch, and secondary throttle tables.
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:15 AM   #1097
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Thanks! I'm looking forward to doing a comparison!

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Old 08-06-2011, 08:50 PM   #1098
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OBDII connection

Just picked up a new to me '07 ADV 990 and I'm getting up to speed to get this machine dialed in.

Started by making an OBDII adapter cable:



However, I had no idea where the connector actually was on the bike. Once I found it under the seat, in the ABS box I thought, what a PITA so I came up with the solution of putting an OBDII connector in the glove box.



I also found a handy dust cover for the connector



Time to get busy doing some engine calibration!

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Old 08-07-2011, 07:32 AM   #1099
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Very nice ODBII adapter. Well fitted, and designed.

Now, to really add to this:

Look into the Torque app for smart phones - designed by Ian Hawkins. Since you now have an OBDII connector, and you are using the VAG OBDII protocol, you can now use the Torque app and a bluetooth ELM327 adapter for a wireless connection to monitor your sensors and performance, or connect to the ECU.

The best bluetooth ELM327 adapter I have used (at a reasonable price) is the ones made by Vgate, and sold on ebay, or from a few other suppliers on the 'net.

[This works for cars/trucks as well. ;) ]

I hope this helps.
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:10 AM   #1100
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Tom has the maps available on his site (TuneECU.com)... THANKS Tom!

What you will notice in doing map comparisons:
Every table has been mapped.
The Fueling is changed in both the F and L tables for each cylinder.
The F_L Switch points have been altered to maximize the above.
The ignition tables have been mapped to enhance output, as well as improve smoothness and transient response.
Rev limit is altered for improved over-rev, and mapped further as well.
More.

The rider of the Wings 201 exhaust equipped bike is reporting improved mileage on his return from AL to FL. (Perhaps we can get Dave to post up soon.)
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:15 AM   #1101
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Very nice ODBII adapter. Well fitted, and designed.

Now, to really add to this:

Look into the Torque app for smart phones - designed by Ian Hawkins. Since you now have an OBDII connector, and you are using the VAG OBDII protocol, you can now use the Torque app and a bluetooth ELM327 adapter for a wireless connection to monitor your sensors and performance, or connect to the ECU.

The best bluetooth ELM327 adapter I have used (at a reasonable price) is the ones made by Vgate, and sold on ebay, or from a few other suppliers on the 'net.

[This works for cars/trucks as well. ;) ]

I hope this helps.
This looks like a cool app. Have you tried this app and BT adapter on the 990? I assume it's monitor only?
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:36 AM   #1102
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The rider of the Wings 201 exhaust equipped bike is reporting improved mileage on his return from AL to FL. (Perhaps we can get Dave to post up soon.)
Dave's not here!

I'm still recuperating from being in the oven for 8 hours yesterday! For all the owners of a 990 that is non-compliant in the fueling department, go see Wayne. If there is no Wayne, find a shop that will tune your bike using TuneECU and get your fueling set right. I rode 1000 miles to get this done.

The difference between two 2010 990A's - Thomas' bike and my bike, is substantial, both in tune parameters and output. For me, this only reinforces what Wayne already said, "every bike is different"!!!

I hope these two tunes get folks headed in the right direction, but I'm a firm believer in tuning using an eddy-current dyno, 4 gas analyzer and a resident expert like Wayne. You really need all three. I just saw "speed savant" under the Power-Tripp username. He's not lying or exaggerating!!!


One more comment: I have more power, 40+ mpg when I ride sanely, a smoother throttle and no lurching and jumping when the bike is running fully hot. This is everything I asked for and the MPG is icing on the cake. You DO NOT need to put carbs on your FI KTM. Bring it to Wayne and he will hook you up and get it right.

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Old 08-07-2011, 09:48 AM   #1103
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This looks like a cool app.
You're right, this app looks VERY cool! Wayne showed it to me and I bought it right then. I ordered the bluetooth gizmo from the cardoc guy on Ebay and had the bluetooth connector in less than two weeks.

Thanks to Wayne, I've got the KTM ECU to OBDII cable and will hook mine up soon. I'm still trying to sort out a waterproof mini-usb connector to my Motorola Defy, which is weatherproof. No sense in having a droid that doesn't mind water or dust and then blow it up with wet power.

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Here is the eBay item number for the ANDROID compatible bluetooth/obdii gizmo: 300581277083

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Old 08-07-2011, 10:15 AM   #1104
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You're right, this app looks VERY cool! Wayne showed it to me and I bought it right then. I ordered the bluetooth gizmo from the cardoc guy on Ebay and had the bluetooth connector in less than two weeks.

Thanks to Wayne, I've got the KTM ECU to OBDII cable and will hook mine up soon. I'm still trying to sort out a waterproof mini-usb connector to my Motorola Defy, which is weatherproof. No sense in having a droid that doesn't mind water or dust and then blow it up with wet power.

Here is the eBay item number for the bluetooth/obdii gizmo: 250856166277
I'd be interested how it works. I have the TuneECU cable somewhere around here. Gave up on it after TunECU would not download my maps from the ECU.
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:29 AM   #1105
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Dave's not here!

I'm still recuperating from being in the oven for 8 hours yesterday! For all the owners of a 990 that is non-compliant in the fueling department, go see Wayne. If there is no Wayne, find a shop that will tune your bike using TuneECU and get your fueling set right. I rode 1000 miles to get this done.

The difference between two 2010 990A's - Thomas' bike and my bike, is substantial, both in tune parameters and output. For me, this only reinforces what Wayne already said, "every bike is different"!!!

I hope these two tunes get folks headed in the right direction, but I'm a firm believer in tuning using an eddy-current dyno, 4 gas analyzer and a resident expert like Wayne. You really need all three. I just saw "speed savant" under the Power-Tripp username. He's not lying or exaggerating!!!


One more comment: I have more power, 40+ mpg when I ride sanely, a smoother throttle and no lurching and jumping when the bike is running fully hot. This is everything I asked for and the MPG is icing on the cake. You DO NOT need to put carbs on your FI KTM. Bring it to Wayne and he will hook you up and get it right.
I want to do this, but need to find someone local.
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:22 PM   #1106
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I want to do this, but need to find someone local.
I wonder, would contacting Factory Pro or Mustang Dynamometer would help? Maybe they can tell you if there is a shop in your area with one of their setups...
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:28 PM   #1107
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This looks like a cool app. Have you tried this app and BT adapter on the 990? I assume it's monitor only?

Cy,
I have not tested on the 990 ADV, but I does work well on other bikes using the same VAG protocal with Keihin ECUs. There is no reason it will not work on the KTMs (all of 'em) running the same ECUs. The only issue is the connector - which is not hard to make, and even easier to purchase.

The ability to use the 3D accelerometers and GPS in a smart phone, in conjunction with all of the outputs that you can see in TuneECU, makes for some interesting information, and the ability to test for your self, and changes in mapping. We have been using this for a while now on some of the higher output street bikes, and logging the data as well.
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:36 PM   #1108
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In WA state, try contacting Gary Ricci.

Ricci Motorsports
Woodinville, WA 98072
Phone: (425) 424-3888 (this may not be current, but is the only number I have for him.)

He doesn't generally take in Adventurers and Sport Tourers, as he tends to work on mostly AMA and racing stuff. But you might be able to talk him into it.

I hope this helps,

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Old 08-07-2011, 05:27 PM   #1109
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In WA state, try contacting Gary Ricci.

Ricci Motorsports
Woodinville, WA 98072
Phone: (425) 424-3888 (this may not be current, but is the only number I have for him.)

He doesn't generally take in Adventurers and Sport Tourers, as he tends to work on mostly AMA and racing stuff. But you might be able to talk him into it.

I hope this helps,

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Old 08-07-2011, 06:40 PM   #1110
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I'll bug him, much thanks!
Maybe we could get a group of us to go visit him. I'd do it.
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