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Old 02-17-2012, 09:33 AM   #1111
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"But although it'll never scratch as sharply as a Multistrada, it brings true grand touring ability to this class of bike, enough to make it a tempting alternative to a proper grand tourer."
We wanted a modernized Africa Twin, we got a CrossWing ...
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:01 AM   #1112
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Two Plugs, attached is the link to the Crosstourer's accesories in Spain. Look at the last item, it's the foot shift pedal for DTC bikes.

http://www.honda-montesa.es/motos/mo...r&accesorio=si
This is the best accessory they could provide. After I rode the DCT VFR the only thing I thought it needed was a foot shift or option to have it. If I get one of these it will definately be the DCT version now.
Thanks for the link.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:20 AM   #1113
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Once again Honda focuses on the question that no one asked. Is it really that hard to pull in a clutch lever?
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:42 AM   #1114
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Once again Honda focuses on the question that no one asked. Is it really that hard to pull in a clutch lever?
I felt the same till I tried it BUT.....I was pleasently suprised at how well it works. It made a better faster rider of me in the twisties. No need to focus on engine RPM's and shift points, simply brake, turn in, roll-on the throttle when ready, then hang on!! . It is always in the heart of the tq range.... very nice!

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Old 02-17-2012, 11:45 AM   #1115
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More from Visordown.

Dirt road would be nice.



Review.

http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-...iew/20122.html
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Old 02-17-2012, 12:26 PM   #1116
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I've ridden both versions of the VFR1200 and agree the paddle shift is smooth and precise. I expected and auto-shift automatic transmission type feel but what I got was immediate gear transitions.

I'm very very interested in riding and most probably buying a Crosstourer. That is, if it gets to the U.S. before I pull the trigger due to impatience on my part and indecisiveness from Honda's on another competitive bike like a Tenere or the new Triumph. I don't think I will choose the DCT version. I'm certainly hoping it will be in showrooms here very soon.

There is no one-size-fits-all bike that will please everyone for every type of riding. But the specs on this bike hits a good many of the items on my wish list.
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:04 PM   #1117
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The initial "first ride" tests seem favouarble. I'll wait until I ride one, however, before I decide if it's for me. That being said, I'm in no real hurry to get rid of my Varadero either.
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:22 PM   #1118
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More from Visordown.

Dirt road would be nice.



Review.

http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-...iew/20122.html
It's got cruise control, but only at 210Km/h. That would suit a few people 'round here

It's got the fire blades ABS as well. Good stuff.

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They told us that a great many riders are looking for things other than outright on-paper performance, race-inspired, neck-cramping riding positions and MotoGP inspired styling.
Well Duh! When did they figure that out? Bikes that work well in the real world. Who would have thunk it.
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:50 PM   #1119
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Kevin Ash's review

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The stock machine disguises its weight reasonably well, but the DCT version with panniers and topbox is as agile as an oil tanker, and it doesn’t help that the front end has something of a rubbery feel. Pull on the bars and you even see the flex between them and the front wheel, while the bike heaves from one side to the other with the alacrity of an elephant seal digesting its Christmas dinner.
http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/honda-crosstourer-0
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:40 PM   #1120
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Kevin Ash's review
Somebody had to say it. I won't even test ride it if it ever comes to the US. His reviews normally match my own experiences.

So, what is it now? A CrossWing or a GoldTourer?
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:41 PM   #1121
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Hey, hey, you live in California ... and we're the lucky bastards?
In the case of Kalifornia, the grass isn't greener on this side of the fence. There are, however, some great roads to motorcycle on.

But apparently we won't be riding those roads on a X-Tourer. Which completely sucks. Mother Honda, you're killing me.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:10 PM   #1122
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The stock machine disguises its weight reasonably well, but the DCT version with panniers and topbox is as agile as an oil tanker, and it doesn’t help that the front end has something of a rubbery feel. Pull on the bars and you even see the flex between them and the front wheel, while the bike heaves from one side to the other with the alacrity of an elephant seal digesting its Christmas dinner.
"Reasonably well" to "elephant seal" in 20Kg, One wonders if the exaggerations do the same.

Anyway Ash is buying an NC700 because fuel economy is the new black.

Looks like the bike is set up to be stable not twitchy.

Standard.
Caster Angle - 28°
Trail - 107 mm

Looks a bit like that.

Jack up the back and drop through the forks for the poms.

Fuel economy isn't brilliant on the test, but tight motors and test riders do not an eco challenge make.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:34 PM   #1123
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"Reasonably well" to "elephant seal" in 20Kg, One wonders if the exaggerations do the same.

Anyway Ash is buying an NC700 because fuel economy is the new black.

Looks like the bike is set up to be stable not twitchy.

Standard.
Caster Angle - 28°
Trail - 107 mm

Looks a bit like that.

Jack up the back and drop through the forks for the poms.

Fuel economy isn't brilliant on the test, but tight motors and test riders do not an eco challenge make.
Ash's reviews seem to be heavily weighted toward anything BMW and fairly anti-Japanese. That might have something to do with the fleet of BMWs he uses for his riding school...just a guess

He's the same guy that tried to make a case that Yamaha was 'copying' the BMW GS with it's PARALLEL twin, WATER-cooled engine, DOUBLE-sided swing arm bike with SIDE-mounted radiator, INTERGRAL generator, WET clutch, and CONVENTIONAL forks.

Exaggeration??..hyperbole?? He's a champion of that
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:48 AM   #1124
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He's the same guy that tried to make a case that Yamaha was 'copying' the BMW GS with it's PARALLEL twin, WATER-cooled engine, DOUBLE-sided swing arm bike with SIDE-mounted radiator, INTERGRAL generator, WET clutch, and CONVENTIONAL forks.
Oh, you mean that F800GS with shaft drive?
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Old 02-18-2012, 02:24 AM   #1125
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Oh, you mean that F800GS with shaft drive?


You mean the jacked up TDM copy...

Except BMW didn't figure out how to make it stay together..
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