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Old 10-16-2013, 08:47 AM   #421
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At the MOA rally last summer for a C3 world graphic model . $625.00, now they're under $500 . That blows, but what really blows is the wind blowing in the visor, top left at any speed . It's fantastic ability for fog under 60 degress . Making it unable to ride in fog, rain or the morning in the mountains . The city position for the shield allows a gale to blow across your face . I must admit, I did not install the pinlock shield . That in my opinion is an after thought . I'm sorry, but a helemt with the cred of a Schuberth should not require owner instalation of parts to make it useable . It isn't a lot quieter than the C1, but is lighter . That said, I likely won't be buying another when I've had enough of this one .
Did you lock the visor down? Just lowering it isn't enough, you have to pull down until it latches. Mine seals perfectly.

The pinlock works very well, and it takes about 5 minutes to install. I leave mine in all the time.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:05 AM   #422
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At the MOA rally last summer for a C3 world graphic model . $625.00, now they're under $500 . That blows, but what really blows is the wind blowing in the visor, top left at any speed . It's fantastic ability for fog under 60 degress . Making it unable to ride in fog, rain or the morning in the mountains . The city position for the shield allows a gale to blow across your face . I must admit, I did not install the pinlock shield . That in my opinion is an after thought . I'm sorry, but a helemt with the cred of a Schuberth should not require owner instalation of parts to make it useable . It isn't a lot quieter than the C1, but is lighter . That said, I likely won't be buying another when I've had enough of this one .
Use the Pinlock...works great!
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:01 AM   #423
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Yes to the lock down

Air comes in at the left top of the visor . I'm home and am putting the pinlock in now . I wore the C3 a few times this summer . It fit but was hot, I never even took the pinlock outa the box . The lack of ventilation, then, made this my fall/winter helmet . I'll read the directions before sticking my foot in my mouth from here on . Thanks
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:06 AM   #424
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I use a C3. Love the fit. However, one feature I really find annoying is that the visor
won't stay in a semi-open state, the slightest breeze and it slams shut.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:33 AM   #425
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At the MOA rally last summer for a C3 world graphic model . $625.00, now they're under $500 . That blows, but what really blows is the wind blowing in the visor, top left at any speed . It's fantastic ability for fog under 60 degress . Making it unable to ride in fog, rain or the morning in the mountains . The city position for the shield allows a gale to blow across your face . I must admit, I did not install the pinlock shield . That in my opinion is an after thought . I'm sorry, but a helemt with the cred of a Schuberth should not require owner instalation of parts to make it useable . It isn't a lot quieter than the C1, but is lighter . That said, I likely won't be buying another when I've had enough of this one .
You may want to give them a call as their customer service is great . . . or, rather, that has been my experience. Phil Chapman is a good guy and can probably help you out. His number is 949-215-0893.

I hope this helps.

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Old 10-16-2013, 01:05 PM   #426
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Air comes in at the left top of the visor . I'm home and am putting the pinlock in now . I wore the C3 a few times this summer . It fit but was hot, I never even took the pinlock outa the box . The lack of ventilation, then, made this my fall/winter helmet . I'll read the directions before sticking my foot in my mouth from here on . Thanks
The pinlock buttons have 3 settings to adjust the spacing. There's an arrow on the head. Tightest is with the arrows pointing to center, loosest is pointing away from each other. Intermediate is pointing up or down. The beaded side faces the shield, and it has to seal against it all the way around. Otherwise, condensation can get under it. You might have to play with it, adjusting the buttons until it does seal.

The top vent is wide open with the switch pushed all of the way back. Read the part of the manual concerning ventilation because there are internal adjustments of the pads as well.
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I did figure the vents out

on the road last summer . That's part of my "only in the winter plan" for the C3 . You can actually see light looking from the inside out, after the liner flaps are moved . Does it allow water egress ? This ones not seen the rain, just through damn good luck . It has been clogged with bugs though . There were a bunch of bugs stuck under the visor where it was letting air in last night as well . That may have been the problem, or the pinlock eliminated it . The pinlock does work, I just got back from a ride to heat the oil for a change . I likely wouldn't have bitched, but after seeing the mega discount on a helmet that the factory claims, "never gets discounted" after I dropped $625. and 700 miles yesterday dealing with the unprepared, by me, helmet . Prompted the rant .
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:11 PM   #428
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on the road last summer . That's part of my "only in the winter plan" for the C3 . You can actually see light looking from the inside out, after the liner flaps are moved . Does it allow water egress ? This ones not seen the rain, just through damn good luck . It has been clogged with bugs though . There were a bunch of bugs stuck under the visor where it was letting air in last night as well . That may have been the problem, or the pinlock eliminated it . The pinlock does work, I just got back from a ride to heat the oil for a change . I likely wouldn't have bitched, but after seeing the mega discount on a helmet that the factory claims, "never gets discounted" after I dropped $625. and 700 miles yesterday dealing with the unprepared, by me, helmet . Prompted the rant .
They're blowing the C3s out because now they have the C3 Pro. You can pop the top vent cover off to clean bugs out of it. Procedure is in the manual.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:05 PM   #429
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Big kudos to Jason at RevZilla for helping me with a replacement part for a Schuberth that I didn't even buy from them. I've been a regular 'Zilla customer for some time now and I don't really see that trend ending any time soon.

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Old 01-25-2014, 07:36 PM   #430
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I had been somewhat satisfied with $100-200 helmets but was shopping around and made the mistake of letting a salesman at the BMW dealer slip a C3 on my head. After comparing a properly fitting XXL to the it-sort-of-fits 3XL HJCs i've been getting by with, i'm willing to consider something in this price range, especially since i'm looking for something that handles cold and the neck sealing features of the C3 look ideal.

The C3pro doesn't seem to offer any significant upgrades for my needs (maybe the repositioned strap?) so i'm looking at a C3. However i see i missed the blowout sale when the pro came out, and would be investing more than 3 times what i have previously for a 4 year old design. Why did the price return to the original level after the 'blowout'? I didn't think Schuberth did sales. Is the price going to dip again this summer? Have they upgraded some little bits here and there with what they developed for the pro?

Also, I'd almost rather have a full face for better integrity around the temples. However it looks like the S2 is more expensive, heavier, and lacks the neck seal the C3 delivers with its neck/chin curtains. wBW also knocked the S2 sunvisor, an important feature to me, for not dropping far enough down, but they seem happy with it in the C3. Any comments on comparing the two?
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Old 01-26-2014, 05:10 AM   #431
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I had been somewhat satisfied with $100-200 helmets but was shopping around and made the mistake of letting a salesman at the BMW dealer slip a C3 on my head. After comparing a properly fitting XXL to the it-sort-of-fits 3XL HJCs i've been getting by with, i'm willing to consider something in this price range, especially since i'm looking for something that handles cold and the neck sealing features of the C3 look ideal.

The C3pro doesn't seem to offer any significant upgrades for my needs (maybe the repositioned strap?) so i'm looking at a C3. However i see i missed the blowout sale when the pro came out, and would be investing more than 3 times what i have previously for a 4 year old design. Why did the price return to the original level after the 'blowout'? I didn't think Schuberth did sales. Is the price going to dip again this summer? Have they upgraded some little bits here and there with what they developed for the pro?

Also, I'd almost rather have a full face for better integrity around the temples. However it looks like the S2 is more expensive, heavier, and lacks the neck seal the C3 delivers with its neck/chin curtains. wBW also knocked the S2 sunvisor, an important feature to me, for not dropping far enough down, but they seem happy with it in the C3. Any comments on comparing the two?
You may wish to check Revzilla: http://www.revzilla.com/schuberth-helmets I don't have an S2 to compare with my C3 but a riding bud does. He almost never wears the S2.

I've had my C3 for two years and it has been, by far, the best helmet I've owned. It did take a bit a breaking-in. Also, I fitted it with the SRC unit and it flawlessly connects to my iPhone so I can take my entire music library for those long tours. I did look at a new Pro but I saw no need to switch.

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Old 01-29-2014, 09:40 AM   #432
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The C3pro doesn't seem to offer any significant upgrades for my needs (maybe the repositioned strap?) so i'm looking at a C3. However i see i missed the blowout sale when the pro came out, and would be investing more than 3 times what i have previously for a 4 year old design. Why did the price return to the original level after the 'blowout'? I didn't think Schuberth did sales. Is the price going to dip again this summer? Have they upgraded some little bits here and there with what they developed for the pro?

Also, I'd almost rather have a full face for better integrity around the temples. However it looks like the S2 is more expensive, heavier, and lacks the neck seal the C3 delivers with its neck/chin curtains. wBW also knocked the S2 sunvisor, an important feature to me, for not dropping far enough down, but they seem happy with it in the C3. Any comments on comparing the two?
Great questions Don Coyote. It’s nice that you’ve had the opportunity to try on the Schuberth C3 helmet. Finding a properly fitting helmet can be a pain in the neck (pun?) with the amount of options and small number of retail locations carrying top helmet brands.

You are right on the money. The Schuberth C3 Pro is not a complete overhaul of the C3, it’s a tasteful upgrade.

While designing the C3 Pro, Schuberth directed much of their attention towards its interior. They completely redesigned the interior to have a more universal fit and better sound dampening. A well-known issue with the C3’s interior is the "Mark of the Schuberth”. The C3 Pro’s new interior design addresses this issue. However, Schuberth also addressed this issue in the C3 with an optional replacement crown liner.

Before the C3 Pro was introduced, the C3 (solid color) had an MSRP of $699.00. Once the C3 Pro was introduced, with an MSRP of $769.00 (solid color), the C3’s price dropped to $629.00.

It’s tough comparing fullface helmets and modular helmets because they’re two different animals. The S2 is a fullface helmet, designed around an aggressive sportbike riding style. The C3 is a modular helmet with the touring rider in mind. Their riding styles, aerodynamics, vent positions, features and fit are all different. Does that mean the C3 cannot be ridden on a sportbike? No, but the C3’s features are not optimized for that style of riding.



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Old 01-29-2014, 10:20 AM   #433
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I have a C3 Pro, and I found that the top air scoop was more fragile than the one on the C3. I had the helmet fall off the bike seat and land on the scoop, and it flew off along with the operating button. The front of it was crushed and broken. I e-mailed Schuberth USA, and they didn't have a replacement in yet, so Phil offered to send a C3 scoop in hi-viz. It fit perfectly, and I can see it's stronger than the original, so I'm going to leave it on.
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You are right on the money. The Schuberth C3 Pro is not a complete overall of the C3, it’s a tasteful upgrade.

Thanks for the comprehensive reply Brian. I wasn't clear with my question on upgrades. I was wondering if the C3 got any tweaks when the Pro was released. So even new C3s still use the original liner and those experiencing problems need to spring for the non-marking replacement?

The price thing makes sense. I hadn't realized it was originally priced at $700.

One other thing i was wondering about these, does the internal antenna in the Pro give it tin foil hat functionality without the SRC system hooked up?
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Thanks for the comprehensive reply Brian. I wasn't clear with my question on upgrades. I was wondering if the C3 got any tweaks when the Pro was released. So even new C3s still use the original liner and those experiencing problems need to spring for the non-marking replacement?

The price thing makes sense. I hadn't realized it was originally priced at $700.

One other thing i was wondering about these, does the internal antenna in the Pro give it tin foil hat functionality without the SRC system hooked up?
You are very welcome! We just want to make sure you have everything needed to make your decision.

C3 helmets have not changed since the release of the C3 Pro. The C3’s crown liner remains the same. I’ve included pictures of a new C3’s “standard” crown liner and the optional replacement crown liner. Both pictures were taken from the forehead point of view to show how the replacement crown liner has changed.

The C3 Pro’s internal antenna does not pick up random frequencies when an SRC System is not installed. However, RevZilla tests have shown the C3 Pro does have a lower alien abduction rate.

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