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Old 11-02-2010, 11:14 PM   #1
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Tubeless spoke wheels for F800GS

Hi

Is there any inmates using tubeless spoke wheels on F800GS?

What make is the wheels?

Any significant advantage tube vs tubeless vice versa?

Do U have pics of it?

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Old 11-03-2010, 03:21 PM   #2
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Hi.
I personally have not gone down that road. But here is a thread which talks about it somewhat.
I'd much prefer a 1200GS-like design rather than just sealed nipples. But it's a start.

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Old 11-03-2010, 08:21 PM   #3
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You could sent your wheels to Woody and have him lace a set of HP2 rims to them.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:47 PM   #4
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Woody has laced a Exel Takasago rim to an 800 hub for me and made it tubeless.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:56 PM   #5
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You could sent your wheels to Woody and have him lace a set of HP2 rims to them.
Is there a Paul Harvey moment here T...does Woody do this for the F8?
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:01 PM   #6
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Is there a Paul Harvey moment here T...does Woody do this for the F8?
He can do anything when it comes to wheels. The HP2 rims are the only 21"/17" combo I know of that that are cross spoked which is the best way to go tubeless with a spoked wheel.
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:23 PM   #7
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He can do anything when it comes to wheels. The HP2 rims are the only 21"/17" combo I know of that that are cross spoked which is the best way to go tubeless with a spoked wheel.
The question though is, will they work with the 800 hubs. I've been wanting to go to the cross spoke wheels too for the tublessnessbessmess I hadn't considered the HP2 rims. I figured perhaps a rim from an older airhead GS for the front 21" and a newer oil/hexhead rear 17" rim might work, but the big question on getting the spokes and hubs to match is the uncertainty.
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:54 PM   #8
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The question though is, will they work with the 800 hubs. I've been wanting to go to the cross spoke wheels too for the tublessnessbessmess I hadn't considered the HP2 rims. I figured perhaps a rim from an older airhead GS for the front 21" and a newer oil/hexhead rear 17" rim might work, but the big question on getting the spokes and hubs to match is the uncertainty.
I don't see any reason whatever why the HP2 rims would not lace right up. What are you worried about - the spokes clearing the rotors or perhaps the rear sprocket?
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:56 PM   #9
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I don't see any reason whatever why the HP2 rims would not lace right up. What are you worried about - the spokes clearing the rotors or perhaps the rear sprocket?
More like the number of spokes, the angle of the holes in the hub, the correct style and length of spoke being available and the issues you mentioned.

Deffinitly a bit of research needed, plus someone who is skilled at such work, which I am deffinitly not.
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More like the number of spokes, the angle of the holes in the hub, the correct style and length of spoke being available and the issues you mentioned.

Deffinitly a bit of research needed, plus someone who is skilled at such work, which I am deffinitly not.
Few people have the skill to work with cross spoked wheels - me included. I believe all the wheels in question have 40 spokes. I will double check this weekend since I have both bikes in the same place where I am headed. I would be less concerned about the other issues since they can be overcome. Hey, I did not say it would be cheap, just an option which should be checked out. Personally, I prefer the tubed tires off road for a number of reasons. The biggest one being the ability to air down to lower pressures than tubeless.
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:18 PM   #11
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Few people have the skill to work with cross spoked wheels - me included. I believe all the wheels in question have 40 spokes. I will double check this weekend since I have both bikes in the same place where I am headed. I would be less concerned about the other issues since they can be overcome. Hey, I did not say it would be cheap, just an option which should be checked out. Personally, I prefer the tubed tires off road for a number of reasons. The biggest one being the ability to air down to lower pressures than tubeless.
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Old 11-05-2010, 05:33 PM   #12
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Few people have the skill to work with cross spoked wheels - me included. I believe all the wheels in question have 40 spokes. I will double check this weekend since I have both bikes in the same place where I am headed. I would be less concerned about the other issues since they can be overcome. Hey, I did not say it would be cheap, just an option which should be checked out. Personally, I prefer the tubed tires off road for a number of reasons. The biggest one being the ability to air down to lower pressures than tubeless.
Really? What, 5psi? At pressures low enough to worry about tubed tyres unseating, you have to worry instead about tubes getting pinched (for exactly the same reasons).

This is neutral ground for the two types of tyre, IMHO. In 2010, the advantage of tubes over tubeless is one, and one only - lower manufacturing costs.
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I can plug a tubeless tire and be back on the road in minutes. I think that's a huge advantage over tube tires.
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:38 PM   #14
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I can plug a tubeless tire and be back on the road in minutes. I think that's a huge advantage over tube tires.
Plugs rarely hold and are not a good permanent fix... A new tube can be done quickly too and is a good permanent fix.
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:42 PM   #15
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Plugs rarely hold and are not a good permanent fix...
They have held for thousands of miles, in my experience.
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