ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Orange Crush
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-06-2010, 05:53 PM   #1
cjracer OP
AWD please!!
 
cjracer's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Mukwonago, WI
Oddometer: 3,949
Wicked Turn your KTM950 into AWD in 3,4,5,??? easy steps

This project has been hidden away from public view for some time now, over 1 year. So it may have slipped out to a few friends or anyone stopping by the shop that may have caught a glimpse of something odd.

I'm sure the neighbors have been wondering why the lights are still on at 4am???

My opinions on AWD have been stated before and this build report will try and start from the beginning. I'd like to try and document this the best I can. I may get long winded from time to time, so bear w/ me as I try my best to get this out.

The building of an AWD KTM 950 ADV.

It all started here about 2 yrs ago:

http://www.christini.com/news.php

I spent countless hours reading old articles and test reports on Christini's AWD system.

Being a mechanically minded person, I liked how his system worked and the fact I could see the parts. Yes, there is alot of stuff going on, but it all has a purpose.

One of my good high school friends works at a local tool and die shop. I stopped in to say hi a few years ago and see this on the shop floor.


I've been in a few CNC shops over the years, but you don't run into cool stuff like this everyday. We get to talking about it and they actually helped produce parts for these bikes.



Up until now, I've only ever seen these in magazines.

So after a few pics...




I tried to get a time set up for a test ride.

A few weeks later....




It was so much fun. I'm not a fast rider, but I could tell it was helping me out and made riding so much more fun. Isn't that what it's all about?
Enjoying your riding time to the most.


__________________
My 2006 950S thread. 2006 950s update
New product updates here! Wordpress BLOG
click www.cjdesignsllc.com for the full line of products. FREE STUFF!!
cjracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2010, 05:55 PM   #2
Geek
oot & aboot
 
Geek's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Twin Spruce Gap, Colorado
Oddometer: 29,553


Geek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2010, 06:19 PM   #3
AdvGa
Beastly Adventurer
 
AdvGa's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Location: Atlanta Metro
Oddometer: 1,320
CJ,
You never cease to amaze me with your engineering prowess.

Great Job!
AdvGa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2010, 06:36 PM   #4
ginslung
It'll take.
 
ginslung's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Location: Denver
Oddometer: 216
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdvGa
CJ,
You never cease to amaze me with your engineering prowess.

Great Job!
Well said. Suffice to say, there's a lot of people tipping our hats to what you have done and will do.
ginslung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2010, 07:18 PM   #5
Qwik
Two Wheeled Addict
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Sunnyvale, California
Oddometer: 5,937
That thing was the center of attention at the Rally
__________________
Speed bumps never seem to make me go any faster
Qwik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2010, 07:18 PM   #6
cjracer OP
AWD please!!
 
cjracer's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Mukwonago, WI
Oddometer: 3,949
Well thanks guys. That's so kind.


So after this little test session the gears started to grind away in my head "How can I get this to work?" "Would it work?" "How long will this take me?"

In the end in knew I had to try. That's been a problem of mine for some time now. Once an idea gets stuck, it won't leave until I build it. That's why we have welders and CNC machines now. Not much you can't fix.

Around this time a good riding buddy of mine (Jeepboy), had an incident at his farm.

We had done several trips together and he was an early 950 lover.

Read more here.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380796



I headed down to take a look and see what his plans were. The bike was totaled and off to auction soon, no way I could buy it from him or the insurance comp. Some IL Rules.

A few months go by asking him if he knew what was up w/ his bike. I was now on the hunt for a 950 to use as a doner.

A few frames popped up in flea-market. I picked one up from James Renazco, the seat god. He had just parted a bike out and the frame was left. Perfect. This is a start, I thought. No way was I was going to let me 06' 950 sit apart while I build this. I need to ride.

Up on the bench it went to start looking, thinking, and drooling over.
__________________
My 2006 950S thread. 2006 950s update
New product updates here! Wordpress BLOG
click www.cjdesignsllc.com for the full line of products. FREE STUFF!!

cjracer screwed with this post 11-06-2010 at 07:24 PM
cjracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2010, 11:11 PM   #7
a$$hole
Studly Adventurer
 
a$$hole's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: DFW
Oddometer: 910
This is going to be sweet! I've been waiting for this thread to happen!
a$$hole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2010, 11:34 PM   #8
viola-tor
Needs to ride!
 
viola-tor's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Location: Rockies. Freakin' Rockies.
Oddometer: 2,070
Oh man, bring it on!
viola-tor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 01:22 AM   #9
Nailhead
Painting by numbers
 
Nailhead's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Location: Glendo, WY- Pop. 230
Oddometer: 5,944
My workplace performance is bound to suffer during the course of this thread.
__________________
-Chris


'7? Benelli 650S, '80 BMW R100 RS, '07 KTM 990 Adventure
Nailhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 01:36 AM   #10
Chris618
Studly Adventurer
 
Chris618's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: Troy, NY
Oddometer: 770
I'm locked into this thread. Tell me more, tell me more.
__________________
Super Tenere
400 exc sm
ttr 125
Chris618 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 03:22 AM   #11
StevenD
Hmmmm, dirt!
 
StevenD's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: Holland, Amserdammed
Oddometer: 1,106
How does the Cristini system work? Is it hydraulic to?

Google for yamaha 2track, that system is ready for sale as a package, and bolts to many bikes to. Could learn from that and make the ultimate 9x0 system from it!

http://www.ohlins.com/Checkpoint-Ohl...omplete-Story/

Edit:
Found the whole cristini tech part. Interresting, but as he states no giant hydraulic losses, personaly i think the whole gear and shaft drive system is taking just as much power and is prone to failure.no quick disabeling if a gear gives out either. I'm with Hydro on this one but look forward to following your project!

Ohlins mentions the original patents from the system cristiani is using as well.
__________________
999 LC8 Rat-Rally custom - 500 EXC - XR666R '85

StevenD screwed with this post 11-07-2010 at 03:56 AM
StevenD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 03:53 AM   #12
Blue&Yellow
but orange inside...
 
Blue&Yellow's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Location: Sweden
Oddometer: 754
Quote:
Originally Posted by StevenD
How does the Cristini system work? Is it hydraulic to?

Google for yamaha 2track, that system is ready for sale as a package, and bolts to many bikes to. Could learn from that and make the ultimate 9x0 system from it!

http://www.ohlins.com/Checkpoint-Ohl...omplete-Story/
nah dude, chains, sprockets and gears

There's differential type gear up in the steering crown that's the key to it all and it splits the power two the left and right side, then you have two axles running down each fork leg. The axles are sliding so they can extend and compress with the fork, then you have a 90 degree gear again at the hub and you drive the front wheel. The front wheel is on a faster ratio though with a free hub so it will drive like a normal bike until you spin the rear in mud or sand, then you'll feel the front kicking in. It's a pretty cool system but for simplicity I think the 2 wheel drive hydraulic ohlins might be preferable...

Anyways - a two wheel drive Adv with recluse clutch and large low pressure paddle wheels back AND forth? Could we have the ultimate baja explorer???
Blue&Yellow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 05:25 AM   #13
traveltoad
Aaron S
 
traveltoad's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2002
Location: San Fernando Valley
Oddometer: 6,565
traveltoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 05:53 AM   #14
Dan Alexander
Ride Far - Ride Fast
 
Dan Alexander's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Now only Montreal
Oddometer: 6,667
I'm in
__________________
Beemers Past and Present: 74 R90S, 77 R100RS, 85 K100RS, 2x 87 K100RS, 96 R1100GS (getting hacked), 99 R1100S, 2002 R1150GS, 2005 F650 Dakar
Plus the occasional Triumph, BSA, Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and KTM but who's counting
Dan Alexander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 06:14 AM   #15
intothenew
Briar Patch Navigator
 
intothenew's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Almost Heaven
Oddometer: 2,128
Please, O please don't do this to me. I will have to follow along and lose sleep thinking of the reasons that I must have this.

For my mental and physical well being, please stop?

Woe is me, o woe is me.
__________________
Momentum is your friend, and never trust a grapevine.

"For a boy,it was a kind of paradise.
I wasn't just playing Indian, I was living Indian."
intothenew is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 04:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014