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Old 11-21-2010, 10:56 AM   #1
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Dustbin racing fairings

Gday all.
I can't help myself, I'm always dreaming of new projects. My latest stoooopid idea is to find out more about the old '50s "dustbin" fairings, think V8 Guzzi and IOM.
I've Googled the house down, and found some cool info, but since some of the inmates that inhabit this side of the website have "been there done that" more than my pitiful 30years worth, I'm really hoping to find someone with personal experience with them (or good stories from their Dad!).
Specifically, how effective are they in increasing top speed on the same bike, with then without. I'm aware of the cross-wind aero issues, just curious of the speed bottom line.
Old photo's would be appreciated muchly!
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:00 AM   #2
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Oh yeah, sorry guys.
The reason is coz me being in the habit of dragracing old crap that's completely unsuitable, a "dustbin" might just help get an extra 3 tenths and 3 mph.......
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:22 AM   #3
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OK. You asked for it. (In the Pilbara, on a loooong night shift....)











Not 'old' pix, by the way. Just a cupla months old, taken at Assen, for the Centenial TT. All bikes were raced all weekend, most of them by their original riders. Twas awesome....
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:13 PM   #4
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I looked into the dustbins a while back and still want to make one for myself..... the cross wind issue seems to have been more an issue of the amount of fairing side area in front of the bike's centerline than the actual shape of the fairing, and it's been suggested in more than one forum that adding a streamlined tail section of sufficient area would not only close up the dirty air behind the machine but reduce the side wind weirdness at the same time.

Anyway, there aren't many fairings available out there to choose from- you would most likely have to make one from scratch for your particular application. Airtech had at least one, but it was from a 125cc MV and was very small, and they were rumored to have a larger one that they were going to make molds of, but I don't know for sure if they ever did. Evan Wilcox was making a very nice NSU replica, but it's a bit pricey at $5300, albeit beautifully crafted from aluminum.
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:31 PM   #5
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Craig Vetter shares some findings re: tail pieces on dust bins here.
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:41 PM   #6
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Mista Vern turned me onto pro wheel barrow racing, and I got very competitive. Truthfully, though- I didn't notice any better top speeds.


Sure was a helluva chick magnet, though!


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Old 11-21-2010, 02:40 PM   #7
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I also heard that Airtech was working on a dustbin from an NSU, saw a picture of it, but nothing about replicas n a couple years.
Might want to check in with the guy (Guys?) at
ze Last Chance Garage, Someone there has put a dustbin on their /5

Then there is someone who was one on their /2
http://www.rockerboxer.com/albums/al...939/397040.htm

And there might be a chance that Brooks Motor Works could have a dustbin on thier LSR sidecar in 2011 at Bonneville
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:39 AM   #8
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Gday Bootlace.

Know the feeling, I'm on night watch in the Nth Midwest/Sth Murchison.
Great for coming up with stooopid ideas, like trying to get a 1972 CB350twin into the 12's.........just coz you can! (only just probably, with an act of God..... ).
Great pics. I'd love to get there one day to see all this stuff up close.

I wonder what the difference would be on a before and after trial?

That last pic of the "fighter" eyes and teeth is just plain cool!
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:33 AM   #9
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http://www.discovolantemoto.co.uk/bo.../prod_343.html - Bargain!
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:44 AM   #10
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And there might be a chance that Brooks Motor Works could have a dustbin on thier LSR sidecar in 2011 at Bonneville
I don't think there are any venues where a dustbin is legal except on a sidecar. We might still have a rather beat up one for a /2 up in rafters. I won't ride with it.
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Dustbin's are only ILLEGAL for FIM, salt and drags still OK (at least I know about the drags, only 90% sure bout landspeed).

They seem to work well though, CD around .4/.45 from what I can gather, a newish sports bike about .55/.6 as a comparison. Might get below .4 with a tail of some sort, or salt tricks like wheel disc on rear.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:12 AM   #12
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[quote=MODNROD]Gday Bootlace.

Great for coming up with stooopid ideas, like trying to get a 1972 CB350twin into the 12's.........just coz you can! (only just probably, with an act of God..... ).

Ummm. You been drug tested lately?
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Ummm. You been drug tested lately?[/QUOTE]
I'd fail the caffeine test I rekn! Easy to see it coming out the ears anyway

I need mid-40's rwhp and 200kg total, achievable......but bloody hard!
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:36 AM   #14
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Heres one from Lake Gairdner. Could be wrong, but I think this is officialy the worlds fastest bevel....

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I don't think there are any venues where a dustbin is legal except on a sidecar. We might still have a rather beat up one for a /2 up in rafters. I won't ride with it.
Where are these rafters?
and could we arrange to have a back door opened?

Love to see pictures
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