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Old 01-17-2014, 07:52 AM   #1876
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:11 AM   #1877
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LOL! Yeah, no CT around here.

The reason I liked the BatteryMINDer one is that it's temperature compensated.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:16 AM   #1878
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Bells and whistles.

When it's cold out and you start the bike it pours the amps into the battery regardless of temps or it's condition.

I'm sure the Engineery types have their reasons but to me it's.......marketing.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:29 AM   #1879
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Nothing to do with starting the bike. When in winter storage, if the battery is stored in unheated area, it requires higher charging voltage. Otherwise, it is being undercharged.



Is it marketing? Maybe..
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:41 PM   #1880
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You're kinda missing the point but this could get like an oil thread.

The colder it gets, the less a battery self-discharges. My concern is freezing. As long as you're not paying a high premium for this geeky technology, whatever. I'm not paying more for a charger than I did for the battery. Feels like "protection" money.

Maybe I DO need an RR protector.
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Old 01-18-2014, 07:17 AM   #1881
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The colder it gets, the less a battery self-discharges.
Over 4 months time while the bike is sitting in 40F garage, it certainly still discharges. A non-temp compensated charger is not going to keep it topped up where it needs to be, under such conditions.

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As long as you're not paying a high premium for this geeky technology, whatever.
The one I'm looking at is same price as the one you linked to from CT.
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Old 01-18-2014, 07:35 AM   #1882
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Over 4 months time while the bike is sitting in 40F garage, it certainly still discharges. A non-temp compensated charger is not going to keep it topped up where it needs to be, under such conditions.


The one I'm looking at is same price as the one you linked to from CT.
Sure it will discharge since the bike consumes .01 whilst off (starting to dig that voltmeter )
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:42 AM   #1883
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Over 4 months time while the bike is sitting in 40F garage, it certainly still discharges. A non-temp compensated charger is not going to keep it topped up where it needs to be, under such conditions.
40F! That's a heated garage. Or a large beer fridge.

I'm talking well below freezing temps where a discharged battery will freeze and die. I'd have to see a study that shows a 95% charged battery in storage has a much shorter lifespan than one at 100%. Yeah but I wouldn't read it anyway. Important thing is to charge it once a month or leave it on a tender. Taking it indoors is worse than a cold garage.

Anyway, I noticed my 2012 battery has a VIN # decal on it. Could BMW not be believing all the warranty claims on the crap batteries they install?
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:20 AM   #1884
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What is the best way to bar over the F800GS engine? Here trying to check valves and I have the front wheel removed at this time for repair. Thanks!
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:23 AM   #1885
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Anyway, I noticed my 2012 battery has a VIN # decal on it. Could BMW not be believing all the warranty claims on the crap batteries they install?
Are the factory batteries known for failing early?
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Old 01-18-2014, 12:16 PM   #1886
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Are the factory batteries known for failing early?
The battery in a 2008 Honda motorbike I had before my F8 had a battery failure like almost like clockwork on its 1-year anniversary... It read 12(ish) volts when tested, but as soon as it was put under load (starter motor) it dropped to about 4 volts. It was replaced by the dealership with another OEM battery and 3 years later when I part-exchanged the bike, it was still going strong.

My F8 (2012 model) sounds a little bit tired when the temperature drops below freezing but so far it has fired up instantly for the past 2 years. BMW use the same battery suppliers as other brands so I think it’s just luck of the draw really... unless there is an electrical issue which is draining the battery of course, such as leaving a GPS plugged in which the computer mistakes for a trickle charger for example.
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Old 01-18-2014, 01:15 PM   #1887
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What is the best way to bar over the F800GS engine? Here trying to check valves and I have the front wheel removed at this time for repair. Thanks!
The best way found via my local BMW Service Tech is bike on center stand, plugs removed, transmission in 5th and use rear wheel while a helper eyes the timing marks on the timing gears.
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Old 01-18-2014, 04:25 PM   #1888
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The best way found via my local BMW Service Tech is bike on center stand, plugs removed, transmission in 5th and use rear wheel while a helper eyes the timing marks on the timing gears.
I do it this way too.
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Old 01-20-2014, 05:31 AM   #1889
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OK, maybe it has been covered before, but has anyone reused their head gasket over again after checking their valve clearance. At $80. + it sure is tempting, you would think BMW would have made them like the RT's where you just clean them extra careful and replace. And if you have, how much gasket seal and any problems with leaks. Thanks.
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You're talking about the valve cover gasket on a valve check right?

By all means reuse the valve cover gasket. The original gaskets all leaked on the top left side and did no matter how mant times you changed it. The new style is improved and came out in 2010.

Anyway, if it's not leaking now it's probably a new design. It only seals splash oil so it's not going to leave you stranded by suddenly letting go. A tip tho....use new silicone on the LH side in the corners of the half moons where the gasket does a sharp 90 degree turn in 4 places. Clean out the old sealant and put just a dab in there. When it does start leaking you'll have lots of time to prepare. Wunderlich sells Athena gaskets much cheaper than the Dealer does. They hint it's the same MFR. I bought the whole engine kit.
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