New Owners - Stupid Questions Thread - Page 61

itsatdm · 08-21-2012, 10:35 PM

Make sure both sides of the stand are flat on the ground when you start. It was a pain at first because I had more weight on one side than the other. It is easier to access the foot lever if you lift up the passenger peg. I grab the close side bar of the passenger peg and lift up while pushing down on the foot lever.

Oz_Gordo · 08-22-2012, 12:54 AM

A lot of discussion about putting a bike on the centre stand went on here
http://f800riders.org/forum/showthre...e-centre-stand

Jeff4155 · 08-22-2012, 01:23 AM

Stupid Q nr ....... Is the Lava Orange colour of the 800 GS only for 2010 models? I love the colour, but would prefer a new model

RexBuck · 08-22-2012, 09:33 AM

Available on the 2011's also. The fastest color BMW offers . . .

HappyHighwayman · 08-22-2012, 09:38 AM

The F800GS is too tall for me to take OFF the center stand the way I would on my Yamaha FZ6 (i.e. sit on it and scootch forward). I need to grab the rear luggage hand and the handlebar, put down the side stand and push it off the center stand. ALways freaks me out a little, though if it "falls" it's going to land on the side-stand and not dall.

Infidel · 08-22-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by peripateo

They say max load 715 lbs at 42 psi cold.

Anyway, is there a trick to getting the bike up on the BMW center stand? Or am I just that weak?

Took me a bit to get it down to an art, but it's a pretty fluid motion now.

I can tell the difference between a full and empty tank- that's for sure.

Anyone masted the center stand take off yet... I saw a buddy do it once- was kind of awesome.

peripateo · 08-22-2012, 02:32 PM

Yeah, that's much easier when you have both sides of the center stand touching! Got it and thanks for the advice.

CaliKarl · 08-23-2012, 04:44 AM

I'm having trouble keeping pressure in my front brake. Changed the fluid 250 miles ago, which got the pressure back, but it's gone again. I'm guessing it's because the cap won't completely close; won't 'click' into place. Does this sound right? It's not leaking, but rather, not 'locked in'. My reservoir, and guard, took a big hit 2 months ago. No damage was done; at least nothing visible. Thanks.

Loutre · 08-23-2012, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RexBuck

Available on the 2011's also. The fastest color BMW offers . . .

I agree with that very nice color indeed

4TooMany · 08-23-2012, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliKarl

I'm guessing it's because the cap won't completely close; won't 'click' into place. Does this sound right?

I'm not sure what you mean by "pressure" in the front brake, but the cap on the reservoir doesn't affect it. Assuming you're talking about the cap on the reservoir on the handlebars. That cap just keeps the fluid from spilling out, the reservoir itself isn't pressurized.

Perhaps you mean the brakes are feeling "spongy"? That's usually a sign of air in the brake lines, but as long as you bled them properly when you changed the fluid, that shouldn't be happening.

Brakes (especially the front) aren't something to leave to chance. It sounds to me like the best bet is to have your dealer take a look. Or at least someone who's more versed in braking systems.

JRWooden · 08-23-2012, 10:36 AM

If this is an ABS-equipted bike there are two bleed screws - on on the caliper and one on the master cylinder.
It is sometimes difficult to get all the air out of the system.

Some folks have reported that tying the front brake lever in overnight helps
(tying it in the position it is in when you apply the brakes)

CaliKarl · 08-23-2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRWooden

If this is an ABS-equipted bike there are two bleed screws - on on the caliper and one on the master cylinder.
It is sometimes difficult to get all the air out of the system.

Some folks have reported that tying the front brake lever in overnight helps
(tying it in the position it is in when you apply the brakes)

Thanks for the advice. After bleeding the brake fluid, through the two on the calipers, the brakes were strong and the lever firm. Now, spongy again. So that implies air is getting in somewhere, right?

CaliKarl · 08-23-2012, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4TooMany

I'm not sure what you mean by "pressure" in the front brake, but the cap on the reservoir doesn't affect it. Assuming you're talking about the cap on the reservoir on the handlebars. That cap just keeps the fluid from spilling out, the reservoir itself isn't pressurized.

Perhaps you mean the brakes are feeling "spongy"? That's usually a sign of air in the brake lines, but as long as you bled them properly when you changed the fluid, that shouldn't be happening.

Brakes (especially the front) aren't something to leave to chance. It sounds to me like the best bet is to have your dealer take a look. Or at least someone who's more versed in braking systems.

Shouldn't be happening, but is. Perhaps my bleed screws aren't tight enough? I didn't want to pound on 'em too hard. I'll flush it again and see what happens. The bleed screw, the baby one, by the reservoir won't open on my bike - damaged.

4TooMany · 08-23-2012, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliKarl

Shouldn't be happening, but is. Perhaps my bleed screws aren't tight enough? I didn't want to pound on 'em too hard. I'll flush it again and see what happens. The bleed screw, the baby one, by the reservoir won't open on my bike - damaged.

It's possible that's the problem. There may be air trapped there that won't bleed out through the nipple on the caliper. Though it seems curious then that it gets better when you bleed the brakes then worse again.

JRWooden · 08-23-2012, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4TooMany

It's possible that's the problem. There may be air trapped there that won't bleed out through the nipple on the caliper. Though it seems curious then that it gets better when you bleed the brakes then worse again.

+1 I think ...
If BMW didn't think that extra bleed screw was needed they would not have put it there...

I've not seen a "twin" that without ABS installed,
but on at least other BMWs the non-ABS bikes do NOT have a bleed screw on the master cylinder ...
just the one on the caliper ......... so there is something going on there ...

Try tying in the lever overnight ... you've got nothing to loose there ...???

Otherwise you might need to take the master cylinder off and get it to a machine shop?
A good shop should be able to remove the busted bleed screw.
If you decide to go that route I'd buy/take a new bleed screw with you that way the machinist will have the dimensions of the replacement part which may help him/her select the most correct EZ-out or whatever their tool of choice would be...

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CaliKarl Studly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2010 Location: Kickin' it by the beach Oddometer: 550	I'm having trouble keeping pressure in my front brake. Changed the fluid 250 miles ago, which got the pressure back, but it's gone again. I'm guessing it's because the cap won't completely close; won't 'click' into place. Does this sound right? It's not leaking, but rather, not 'locked in'. My reservoir, and guard, took a big hit 2 months ago. No damage was done; at least nothing visible. Thanks. __________________ "being alive is a crock of shit" - Kilgore Trout

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08-22-2012, 12:54 AM	#902
Oz_Gordo Adventurer Joined: Dec 2011 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Oddometer: 26	A lot of discussion about putting a bike on the centre stand went on here http://f800riders.org/forum/showthre...e-centre-stand

08-22-2012, 01:23 AM	#903
Jeff4155 Adventurer Joined: Aug 2012 Oddometer: 18	Stupid Q nr ....... Is the Lava Orange colour of the 800 GS only for 2010 models? I love the colour, but would prefer a new model

08-22-2012, 09:38 AM	#905
HappyHighwayman Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2010 Location: San Francisco Oddometer: 274	The F800GS is too tall for me to take OFF the center stand the way I would on my Yamaha FZ6 (i.e. sit on it and scootch forward). I need to grab the rear luggage hand and the handlebar, put down the side stand and push it off the center stand. ALways freaks me out a little, though if it "falls" it's going to land on the side-stand and not dall.

08-22-2012, 02:32 PM	#907
peripateo Adventurer Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Tri-Cities, TN Oddometer: 36	Yeah, that's much easier when you have both sides of the center stand touching! Got it and thanks for the advice.

08-23-2012, 10:36 AM	#911
JRWooden Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: The great state of confusion Oddometer: 3,482	If this is an ABS-equipted bike there are two bleed screws - on on the caliper and one on the master cylinder. It is sometimes difficult to get all the air out of the system. Some folks have reported that tying the front brake lever in overnight helps (tying it in the position it is in when you apply the brakes)