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Old 01-25-2013, 03:54 PM   #1066
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Has there been much study to see if one can get more fuel in the tank while on the sidestand vs centerstand?

What range are you getting on a tank ? Noted,riding styles/tires/conditions, etc. effect mileage, just looking for approximate no.s Thanks all.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:59 PM   #1067
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:59 PM   #1068
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Wheeeeeee!

Well thanks for the advice guys!! I'm now a proud owner of a 2009 F800GS US edition with 13k miles!!!!

Now for the next stupid question.

I'm still under warranty (by a week or so) and the fine people at BMW are swapping out my cracked tank. I believe they are replacing it with a Euro/Canadian tank. Does that mean I lose the charcoal canister and the problems that go with it?

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Old 01-25-2013, 06:08 PM   #1069
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I'm still under warranty (by a week or so) and the fine people at BMW are swapping out my cracked tank. I believe they are replacing it with a Euro/Canadian tank. Does that mean I lose the charcoal canister and the problems that go with it?

Congrats! The tanks are all the same and the cannister is an addition to it. Get rid of that thing by any means possible! Any time we got an American bike in that was running bad we'd throw that thing as far as we could. Most times it fixed the problem.

If it's at the Dealer anyway, program the trip computer to read metric values if you want. It'll still read miles on the odo but temp will be in C and computer in L/100 KM if you care about such things.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:10 AM   #1070
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Has there been much study to see if one can get more fuel in the tank while on the sidestand vs centerstand?

What range are you getting on a tank ? Noted,riding styles/tires/conditions, etc. effect mileage, just looking for approximate no.s Thanks all.
Overfilling the tank can cause problems with the cannister. The small amount you gain isn't worth the risk. Check out the post right after yours about the cannister.

It is impossible to tell what kind of fuel mileage you will get because it all depends on riding style. Rather that ask others just check your own. Check it everytime you ride and compare that to what the computer says. Then you will get a pretty good idea of mileage and how accurate the computer is. Then figure range based on your mileage times 4 gals. Don't count the .2 gals. Use that just in case.

I have found my mileage has varried from a low of 48 to a high of 68 mpg. I usually run in the low 50's for most type of riding.
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:51 PM   #1071
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Question Hand numbness

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So if this is the stupid questions thread, here is one: After 20 minutes of riding my F650 twin, especially at higher speeds, my right hand starts to get very numb, dormant, to the point of sensitivity loss. Today at an highway exit, almost missed the breaking point due to the complete lack of feeling in the hand.
Usually moving my fingers does give back some sensitivity to the hand, but then it losses again quickly. I've bought a throttle rocker and it does help, but not completely. This only happens to my right hand, not the left one. I understand that the vibration at higher speeds stresses the problem.
So really the question(s) is, does this happens to you guys also? What should I do to prevent this? Padded glove? Riding slower?
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:27 PM   #1072
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Numb hands - loosen up

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So if this is the stupid questions thread, here is one: After 20 minutes of riding my F650 twin, especially at higher speeds, my right hand starts to get very numb, dormant, to the point of sensitivity loss. Today at an highway exit, almost missed the breaking point due to the complete lack of feeling in the hand.
Usually moving my fingers does give back some sensitivity to the hand, but then it losses again quickly. I've bought a throttle rocker and it does help, but not completely. This only happens to my right hand, not the left one. I understand that the vibration at higher speeds stresses the problem.
So really the question(s) is, does this happens to you guys also? What should I do to prevent this? Padded glove? Riding slower?
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Make sure that you are keeping a loose grip on the throttle, and relax the shoulders and arms. I run a throttle rocker when on the Interstate and often will just wiggle my fingers to keep the blood flowing - while using the pad of my hand on the rocker to maintain speed.

Try rolling the bars to a different position.

I run the ProGrip gel grips on all of my motorcycles.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:43 PM   #1073
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So really the question(s) is, does this happens to you guys also? What should I do to prevent this? Padded glove? Riding slower?
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I find that some riders (I used to) grip the throttle too tight. I use a throttle lock (Kaoko) so I can relax my grip on long rides or even let go and shake it out. I always wear gloves also. The grips are pretty skinny and hard. Might try a different type of covering like 3Rrr or is it "Beemer Buddies?" The foam covering for the grips. Yes, Google that or check the threads here.
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:14 PM   #1074
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Getting medical here, your body mechanics could be putting pressure on your nerves, do you have carpal tunnel, arthritis, or any other medical condition in your hand/wrist/arm? It is fairly common for these issues to occur with individuals who have something going on. Add the stress of holding a handlebar and poof you overstimulated your nerve and lost feeling. Try and find something similar to the width (broom handle, piece of pipe) and put your glove on then hold it like you hold your handlebars, see if that elicits the same response. Then try positions (motorcycle position with arms up), and see how that goes. Your hands have three primary innervations and it is hard to get them all at once without something putting undue pressure somewhere. Have you had shoulder surgery? Fractured clavicle? Latisissmus issues?
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:39 PM   #1075
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Getting medical here, your body mechanics could be putting pressure on your nerves, do you have carpal tunnel, arthritis, or any other medical condition in your hand/wrist/arm? It is fairly common for these issues to occur with individuals who have something going on. Add the stress of holding a handlebar and poof you overstimulated your nerve and lost feeling. Try and find something similar to the width (broom handle, piece of pipe) and put your glove on then hold it like you hold your handlebars, see if that elicits the same response. Then try positions (motorcycle position with arms up), and see how that goes. Your hands have three primary innervations and it is hard to get them all at once without something putting undue pressure somewhere. Have you had shoulder surgery? Fractured clavicle? Latisissmus issues?

Great.. It's a Stupid Question thread and you go and smarten it up with all your big words.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:16 PM   #1076
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Could be they vibrate like a tuning fork. First thing I noticed was the high frequency vibes. Different than my other 800cc vertical twin (TDM850).

I put some bar cozies on it. Buy some cushioned grips, look for some padded gloves. Don't grip it so tight. Don't ride it so fast or if you have too, put the 658 sprocket on it. Maybe these will fit.http://www.vibranator.com/
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:39 PM   #1077
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Hey guys, many thanks for the input. Probably you're all right: I do grip tight the throttle, the grips are indeed hard.
Today I made an effort to have a more relaxed and less tense posture on the bike. It did work better. Not perfect, but postponed the numbness a bit. Can improve the position also. I think also a glove change is in order. I use all year, thin leather gloves. Think its time to change my Eska gloves.

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Getting medical here, your body mechanics could be putting pressure on your nerves, do you have carpal tunnel, arthritis, or any other medical condition in your hand/wrist/arm? It is fairly common for these issues to occur with individuals who have something going on. Add the stress of holding a handlebar and poof you overstimulated your nerve and lost feeling. Try and find something similar to the width (broom handle, piece of pipe) and put your glove on then hold it like you hold your handlebars, see if that elicits the same response. Then try positions (motorcycle position with arms up), and see how that goes. Your hands have three primary innervations and it is hard to get them all at once without something putting undue pressure somewhere. Have you had shoulder surgery? Fractured clavicle? Latisissmus issues?
I do understand your point. I did have, 6 years ago a tendinitis in my right hand, in the thumb/wrist area. I cured that and it gave me no problems since. Now that I think it better, the numbness does start on the thumb and the forefinger and then the whole hand.

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Old 02-03-2013, 07:44 AM   #1078
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I have 100k on a 1200 GS and 36k miles on my 800. I find that numb hands can vary with where you get gas. Pay attention to that and you will see some stations gas sits in the tanks longer or something. I went over to www.aerostich.com and bought a "throttle rocker" Its just a flat thing that you attach to your throttle and you can put some weight on it with your palm of your hand rather than your fingers. That solved my numb hands problem. It only costs a couple of bucks. Dave
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:01 AM   #1079
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Does the orginal visor from F650GS fit the F800GS?
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:18 AM   #1080
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Does the orginal visor from F650GS fit the F800GS?
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