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Old 04-29-2011, 03:35 AM   #1
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RMX450z Dual sport

I recently visited a Suzuki dealer in the UK to look at some DR's and before i got to sit on a DR i passed the RMX450Z, i got drawn into its competitive looks. straight away and the dealer started talking about the performance ect....

my friend has a DRZ400 which he converts between SM & trail format a few times a month by just changing the wheels over but has recently looked into tuning it to get more bhp, although he is more than happy with its function as a dual sport machine.

The dealer explained that the RMX450z was better performance than the DR and could be used as a dual sport by buying another set of super motor wheel/Tyre package as my friends set up. He also mentioned that the RMX was reliable and could be used like the DRZ with similar services by just changing of oil and filter every 1000 miles.

from what little i've read it seems more like an RMZ with a light, whats people's thought on using it as a DRZ equivalent?

I've found some information on an SM version that seems to availble in Italy. Do any members have use the RMX450Z as a dual sport/SM? do you think it would have any road manners with SM wheels on or be any more uncomfortable than a drz400?

i found this little bit of a RMX450z with SM set up;

http://www.valentiracing.it/it/motard/sm-450-x.html

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=479021&page=4

http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showt...?95932-Rmx450z!!




On the Italian site there seems to be 3 versions

SM 450 X



RMZ-450 ER



RM-X 450 E

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Old 04-29-2011, 10:02 AM   #2
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Looks like it would be a fun bike, except for the close range transmission, which is even narrower than the DRZ. Might not be an issue for a SM, but not ideal for a dual sport bike.

I see there are two transmission setups; it looks like you have a choice of either a close ratio five speed, or a really close ratio five speed.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:31 AM   #3
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Looks like it would be a fun bike, except for the close range transmission, which is even narrower than the DRZ. Might not be an issue for a SM, but not ideal for a dual sport bike.

I see there are two transmission setups; it looks like you have a choice of either a close ratio five speed, or a really close ratio five speed.
The gas tank is also itsy bitsy, you'd be lucky to get 80 miles out of it.
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Old 04-29-2011, 04:00 PM   #4
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6.2 liters = 1.6 gallons (unless you're British)

That is a small tank! If you figure maybe 35 mpg, you'd get about 55 miles total. Maybe 40 miles to reserve?

Still a cool bike, but it's not going to replace the DRZ.
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Old 04-29-2011, 05:15 PM   #5
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[QUOTE=yondering;15792039 but it's not going to replace the DRZ.[/QUOTE]

It is in the UK. According to TBM, the DRZ is not being imported to Europe. How long before it is discontinued in the US???
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:57 PM   #6
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It is in the UK. According to TBM, the DRZ is not being imported to Europe. How long before it is discontinued in the US???
I didn't mean on the sales floor... For practical use, the bike shown above can't replace the DRZ, for the reasons stated above (gas tank and transmission).
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:11 AM   #7
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guys the two problems do stand out on the RMX450Z, but could possibly be rectified;

as the RMX is lighter and have more power perhaps the gearing could be played around with to give more top end by changing the sprocket sizes
DRZ400 135kgs & 34bhp
RMX450Z 125kgs & 45bhp


Larger tank IMS tank is 2.6 gallon/9.84litres;

http://www.imsproducts.com/Products....=true&tyd=true





Dakar Conversion
http://www.befurious.com/suzuki-dakar/


just throwing some ideas around as the feedback so far seems the rmx is reliable.

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Old 05-02-2011, 03:48 PM   #8
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Oh man, I want that RM-X450E. Another sweet bike that won't make it to the US, right?

I'm currently riding the last RMX available in the states (2-stroke) and I've got it plated and riding it as a dual-sport.
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:53 PM   #9
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Oh man, I want that RM-X450E. Another sweet bike that won't make it to the US, right?
It already is in the states.

It's called 450exc.
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Oh, you so funny!

After further research - at 8x's the cost of my RMX250 with minimal gains, I think I'll keep on mixin' my gas.
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:38 PM   #11
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Really depends on what you want to do with it mate, do you want to have a very capable workhorse or do you want to compete in Enduro's?

Are you buying new because the price differential is quite significant: 1838.30 going by Suzuki prices. That's a good chunk of money you could spend on beer.

Don't get me wrong I'd love an RMX450 but and it is a big but when you consider service intervals it gets expensive; oil/filter changes are a given, when it comes to servicing the bike good and proper your looking at serious money and time. A DRZ-E commands more maintainance then the equivalent S versions but no way near as stringent as an RMX on the mechanical side of things. If you know how to ride you'll be fast on anything.

If it were my money and I were in the market for an enduro, I'd build one using a '500 two stroke rippa.

Just to rectify you can still buy the DRZ-E as being an "off-road" bike they no longer comply to the same noise and emission regulations as the equivalent road "S" version.

Hope you make the right choice!

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Old 05-02-2011, 07:45 PM   #12
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An RMZ is pretty much a detuned or differently tuned MX bike. The maintenance intervals are the same as other race or detuned race bikes. Hence the 450 exc. 49 state (not sure that it is street legal in Ca) street legal with offroad performance.

Plus the KTM is easier to start. TBM and Dirt Bike both complained bitterly about stalling and restarting issues (to be far, TBM complained bitterly, Dirt Bike only mildly.)
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Really depends on what you want to do with it mate, do you want to have a very capable workhorse or do you want to compete in Enduro's?

Are you buying new because the price differential is quite significant: 1838.30 going by Suzuki prices. That's a good chunk of money you could spend on beer.

Don't get me wrong I'd love an RMX450 but and it is a big but when you consider service intervals it gets expensive; oil/filter changes are a given, when it comes to servicing the bike good and proper your looking at serious money and time. A DRZ-E commands more maintainance then the equivalent S versions but no way near as stringent as an RMX on the mechanical side of things. If you know how to ride you'll be fast on anything.

If it were my money and I were in the market for an enduro, I'd build one using a '500 two stroke rippa.

Just to rectify you can still buy the DRZ-E as being an "off-road" bike they no longer comply to the same noise and emission regulations as the equivalent road "S" version.

Hope you make the right choice!

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Thanks for the advice and your probably right a DR400Z/S would probably suit my needs better to start off with, as you can leave it in the shed and just use when you want, but I'm a sucker when it comes to new technology. My previous bikes have been Dr125/Husky 250/Gas Gas 250 all two stroke about from the DR125, I've been used to high maintenance bikes being two strokes but obviously the new bike being 4 stroke I'd want to be ultra reliable.

Also my friend with the DRZ400S who would be riding with has spent the time and money on modding it;

2nd hand DRZ400 2500.00 std 34bhp/135kgs
SM wheels 600.00
3x3 mod not sure
jetting not sure
FMF Exhaust 400.00

2nd year of ownership

FCR 39MM Carb 450.00
Cams & Piston kit 500.00
Labour not sure

DR400Z round figures 4,450 + and will be 40bhp



2nd hand RMX450Z 4200.00 std 45bhp/125kgs
Yoshimura RS4 TI/TI 585
Yoshimura CHerry Bomb 30
SM Excel wheels 700

RMX450Z round figures 5,515 + and will be 52bhp

or

std RMX450Z round figures 4,900 45bhp with dual sport sm wheels

So the DR will be 450 cheaper overall and + 10kgs & -5bhp compared to the RMX450 overall.

So in a nutshell I'm heavier then him by 12.6kgs and we have the same riding ability and road riding on the SM set up would be along side to other riders Suzuki BK and Kawasaki zx6r. my thinking is that once his is completely modded it would need a similar maintenance plan as the RMX450Z but with the additional weight and slightly older technology.

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An RMZ is pretty much a detuned or differently tuned MX bike. The maintenance intervals are the same as other race or detuned race bikes. Hence the 450 exc. 49 state (not sure that it is street legal in Ca) street legal with offroad performance.

Plus the KTM is easier to start. TBM and Dirt Bike both complained bitterly about stalling and restarting issues (to be far, TBM complained bitterly, Dirt Bike only mildly.)
This is true TBM have had issues with stalling and starting ect with there long term tester, but other RMX don't seem to be as bad judging by the threads on forums and the cheery bomb is supposed to help as std map makes the bike run lean.

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Old 01-30-2012, 05:42 PM   #14
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Here is my 2010 Suzuki RMX450Z, it has electric start, wide ratio transmission, 2.6 gallon tank, rekluse clutch, etc. Top speed with the stock 13-51 gearing is 87 mph. Planning on gearing it down a little bit because first gear is waaay too slow!



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Old 02-14-2014, 01:01 PM   #15
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My current project bike

Just picked up a 2010 RM-Z450, picture below is of same model and year bike but ISDE prepped following blueprint of Josh Strangs title winning mount. Clutch upgraded, but motor untouched, suspension dialed, note 2.6 gallon fuel cell. One of the primary motivations for selecting this bike is the altitude compensating EFI since my riding missions vary from sea level dunes to 13,000'+ alpine single tracks. Will likely add Rekluse Core EXP.


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