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Old 04-16-2012, 01:57 PM   #2101
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Here's some photos from a 5 day adventure in the rain, snow and mud with lots of green and a little blue sky's thrown in.
Packing the FE for camping/fishing is no problem, loading the bike up for 5 days, 5 weeks, or 5 months is essentially the same pack for me.
Things will change a little when I finally get the rear safari and 70 aux fuel tanks, but not too much since I like how the front panniers hardly changes the bikes handling and adds some protection from the elements.
I plan on doing a more comprehensive post on my packing techniques soon to answer the PM's, it's still a work in progress, for now here's some images on the FE doing what I plan on doing as much as possible with the bike - self supported mixed ADV travel.








Rain test











Packing test.









The FE likes a nice camp fire in the rain








A little fishing










Some single track fun after no-fish fishing and Nancy rides home
















You have to stop and smell the flowers now and then









Solo camping with the FE, I'm in good company










Lots of fun in the snow it was



















More very enjoyable California spring riding, the FE right in it's perfect environment.





































Packed up and heading home








The FE570 can really do it all, it's comfortable enough for long highway miles and then the bike handles incredibly well in it's intended environments off tarmac.

I love this bike!



On a side note from this trip:

One thing is for sure, the Giant Loop bags are not waterproof, much less even water resistant, even after meticulous seam sealing the bags with the included glue, a process I found to be most annoying in the first place when buying expensive ADV motorcycle gear since I didn't know they expected me to complete their manufacturing for them...
I'm not surprised they soaked up the rain and snow after seeing they made the bags how my Mom would for me and the cheap zippers they used, but I needed to give it a real world test before commenting....
Fuck Giant Loop products and their cheap, outdated "sewing" manufacturing techniques that are the same from WWII GI bags.
Good conceptual designs that make sense to us riders, and excellent ADV marketing as I see them everywhere peddling their cheaply made yet pricey products with horribly outdated manufacturing processes and cheap components - the Made in USA tag is a total embarrassment to me as an American. This is the best they can do?
They need to get with modern times and place quality over profit and use Radio or High Frequency Welding like all the top waterproof bag manufacturers do. What good is a ADV motorcycle bag if it's not really waterproof? Why should I have to use a bag inside a bag? That doesn't work for me.
GL products look good on the bike, but if you need 100% waterproof gear you can trust look elsewhere.
GL doesn't actually claim the bags to be 100% waterproof, instead they just use terms like "waterproof material" or "waterproof zippers" or "complete the waterproofing".... very misleading marketing...
I know I will be looking elsewhere and don't want my photos to promote a product that is not up to the needs of my interpretation of ADV riding and is such a disappointment in general.




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I still had fun though!


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Old 04-16-2012, 04:08 PM   #2102
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Great pics Finn!!!

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Old 04-16-2012, 04:23 PM   #2103
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Finn +1 on the great pics! ....so, tell us how you really feel about GL ?? JK..
Thats not good. Their gear is $$$.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:49 PM   #2104
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Thanks Larry, though I have to give credit to izzyblue and RAZR for some of the photos too.


Yeah pizza boy it's pricey for being so cheaply made IMO, we're paying for the innovative designs, but not quality manufacturing.... sorry for the rant but I can't let my photos portray the GL stuff as working in wet weather for me without speaking my mind about it.
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:29 PM   #2105
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Now that's how a Husa 570 is supposed to be used Lost Rider, Bravo!

Hopefully, you can tell us about the engine's longevity, as I've yet to read many (any?) reports of someone really dual-sporting this bike.
I believe the engine will last 10s of thousands of miles, yet the majority of the 570s are only used as play bikes, and just a select few for long distance (short duration) racing.

A big +1 on your GL comments. The fact that they even have the audacity to sell their bags to the motorcycling public knowing they are not waterproof is a slap in the face to us all. I too only learned of this critical design flaw after I purchased a Coyote and MoJavi. What a joke, having to seam seal these things myself after spending $500 on off-road luggage.

GL!

Someone else needs to step in to fill the void here.

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Old 04-16-2012, 05:32 PM   #2106
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These seem to be a knock off of GL or the other way around. Can't
find any info about them. They are much less $$ than GL

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_...506.m270.l1313
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:11 PM   #2107
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Finn, 570 looks sweet in full dress. Thanks for the new PC background and a huge thanks for the little somethin somethin that showed up in the mail.

Shame to hear the report you gave on the GLs. I was looking to pick up a Coyote for my FE, but may hold off until they get their act together.

I'm coming out your way to ride for sure!
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:41 PM   #2108
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Things will change a little when I finally get the rear safari and 70 aux fuel tanks, but not too much since I like how the front panniers hardly changes the bikes handling and adds some protection from the elements.

Awesome pictures Finn!

In your first picture (above), what size are the front Wolfman Rolie pannier bags? Any problems with the Wolfman tank pannier on the right side getting burned by the exhaust pipe? That bare pipe gets hot enough to instantly melt through textile fabrics. P3 make a nice tidy guard for that area. A bit spendy, but works really well to protect pant legs, expensive luggage, and IMHO looks good on the bike.

http://www.ktm-parts.com/P3HUSPG.html



and less expensive versions too here and here
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:09 AM   #2109
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I can give a big rap for the Kriega bags I use on my 390, totally water and dust proof so far, same as their waist pack and back packs. I use the tank strap on the rear of the bike to attach the US bags to, and can do the same on the front if necessary.
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:08 AM   #2110
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Water pump impeller removal

Hey how do I remove the water pump impeller. It's plastic and I don't want to pry on it.

Well that didn't work!


I am not sure how to remove the impeller when the its gets stuck.



Found this. Backwards seal.



Oil seal is good.

I recommend ordering the impeller and water pump washer when ordering seals.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:21 AM   #2111
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:22 AM   #2112
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I can give a big rap for the Kriega bags I use on my 390, totally water and dust proof so far, same as their waist pack and back packs. I use the tank strap on the rear of the bike to attach the US bags to, and can do the same on the front if necessary.
Cruz, You have a pic of your rear bag setup? I gotta get something quick like for a little Appalachian Spine ride coming up.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:35 AM   #2113
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:43 AM   #2114
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Thanks fellows!


We shall see about milage on the FE, I also haves faith it will last, thats why I bought one after almost a year of research for what bike will be my next ADV bike. So far I've averaged 100 miles a day, everyday since I bought the bike having about 2600 miles on it already, 50% pavement. I like riding this bike.
The metal Scott's Oil filter going in today to reduce costs of my frequent oil changes and to help me reduce the amount of stuff I will need to carry once I start to travel farther from home. Scott's told me for trail riding I could probably skip cleaning the filter while traveling and just change the oil every other change since theirs has 90% more flow than the paper ones and would need to be very dirty and clogged to restrict the oil flow. Any thoughts on that?
A can of brake cleaner to clean it while on the road shouldn't be too hard to come by when needed though since I'll be needing to buy oil too. It doesn't hurt that Indy Unlimited highly recommends this filter either, thanks Indy.



The front bags are the Wolfman Large Rollie, rigged using a combination of wolfman deluxe mounting kit and the tank pannier mounting kits. No problem with hitting the exhaust, but the CF guard you listed cyborg is the one I've been looking for, thank you. Added to the list, now I just need a sponsor! Or more work....
I will be shedding more light on how I rigged up the bags soon with photos.





A big +1 on the Kreiga US10 bag I have on the tail being water/mud proof so far also, even after spending many miles on the back of my 8GS before the Berg. Mounting the Kreiga is easy with included straps. It comes with 2 straps with loops that you'd choke around a subframe, but for this I just choke them together making one and loop through under the seat by the seat release, and the other longer strap just goes around the rear fender. So far no issues with the rear wheel catching the strap or my cargo net that also loops around the fender. YRMV of course.
The cargo net on top of the kreiga gives me flexibility throughout the day for shedding layers or carrying important stuff back to camp like beer or wood if it's too wet to find my own. Pictured here are my SPOT Connect and a MSR Dromedary bag for water on top of the Kreiga.






















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Old 04-17-2012, 11:22 AM   #2115
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Even though it's not a 'berg specific question, given the recent comments by LostRider, I'm going to ask this here...

I was going to pony up the $$$ for the GL MoJavi tail bags for those longer multi-day rides on the FE, but now I am not so sure. I've looked at the Wolfman Enduro saddlebags - any one here got them?

I guess the real question is, what is on the market right now that works as a low/med volume tail bag? If you have pics on how your solution works for you on your 'berg, please post 'em.
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