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Old 01-06-2013, 09:57 PM   #3226
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How about this.http://www.ktmpartshouse.com/ecbaske...5I08JPMQ6632R0

Finn you scared me too so I went and checked my 525 c/s yes dirt tricks sprocket and luckily mine is good.
I use the honda type lube it works and a loose chain just a bit, I do the line up the swing arm bolts c/s to tightest part method. A little more work but worth it.
Trials tires no cush hub but will be soon.



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Old 01-06-2013, 11:58 PM   #3227
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Fuel pump woes?

Seems to be the season for it...

Can't get my bike to stay running right now... ignition on - fuel pump whirrs and goes silent, then - crank, crank, crank... eventually it'll start. Runs for a bit, then cuts out. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Can't seem to keep it running.

Is this signs of the fuel pump crapping out? I don't know if I have the new or old style...
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:49 AM   #3228
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haan wheel

I got a quote for a rear haan wheel, cush hub and excell rim like the ones LukasM had and that was 420gbp delivered in the uk which i thought was a good price but something else needed the money so put that on hold.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:59 AM   #3229
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Slowly coming together

A long distance desert tourer, or a quick change to ride a couple of the local enduro's. Header and mid pipe have just been sent away to be ceramic coated and a Haan cush hubbed wheel is on the way.

Hopefully I have an adaptor coming this week so I can use the two litre water tank in the Force bash plate as an oil reservoir. Not sure if I will go to the trouble of modifying the oil storage to fit a filter or use an external in line filter - if I can find somewhere to mount it.



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Old 01-07-2013, 08:23 AM   #3230
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Sounds interesting pRICK! Which oil adapter are you going with?
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:11 AM   #3231
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Seems to be the season for it...

Can't get my bike to stay running right now... ignition on - fuel pump whirrs and goes silent, then - crank, crank, crank... eventually it'll start. Runs for a bit, then cuts out. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Can't seem to keep it running.

Is this signs of the fuel pump crapping out? I don't know if I have the new or old style...


when you say it runs for a bit, do you mean idle, or not run as in riding it and it dies.


I spent a lot of time chasing down a gremlin this summer, turned out to be a loose battery terminal and then a clogged injector. Probably was just the loose terminal at first, but while taking the tank on and off many times I probably got dirt in the quick release... was two different symptoms though. Loose battery terminal it was unpredictable and wouldn't idle or run right, sometimes just quitting, with a clogged injector is just ran very lean and like shit, but ran.


What kind of filtration you have on your bike?



If you get to the point where you ruled out it being anything else and need a fuel pump, I have one... I installed a CAcyworks pump while chasing those gremlins and have my still good, brown OEM one I could loan you for troubleshooting purposes.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:25 AM   #3232
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when you say it runs for a bit, do you mean idle, or not run as in riding it and it dies.
Once I do get it to start, it'll idle for a bit (seems to idle a bit low and turning the idle adjust knob seems to have little or no effect). I can ride it, but if I let it die, it's a bugger to restart. Pulling the idle out works for starting cold, but not once the engine's warm. The manual says turning it should adjust the idle, but doesn't seem to do anything.

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I spent a lot of time chasing down a gremlin this summer, turned out to be a loose battery terminal and then a clogged injector. Probably was just the loose terminal at first, but while taking the tank on and off many times I probably got dirt in the quick release... was two different symptoms though. Loose battery terminal it was unpredictable and wouldn't idle or run right, sometimes just quitting, with a clogged injector is just ran very lean and like shit, but ran.
Definitely *not* loose terminals. I did check thm - plus it's a new (and fully charged) LiPO battery. BUT, I guess it's worth checking the complete path from terminals to ground and all other 'leccy connections.

Hadn't thought about injector. That's a good call. Any wisdom on cleaning them (it)?

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What kind of filtration you have on your bike?
Twin-Air filter and NotOil.

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If you get to the point where you ruled out it being anything else and need a fuel pump, I have one... I installed a CAcyworks pump while chasing those gremlins and have my still good, brown OEM one I could loan you for troubleshooting purposes.
Cheers. Hold that thought. I'll run through the other possibilities you mention first and drop you a line if necessary.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:37 AM   #3233
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Once I do get it to start, it'll idle for a bit (seems to idle a bit low and turning the idle adjust knob seems to have little or no effect). I can ride it, but if I let it die, it's a bugger to restart. Pulling the idle out works for starting cold, but not once the engine's warm. The manual says turning it should adjust the idle, but doesn't seem to do anything.



Definitely *not* loose terminals. I did check thm - plus it's a new (and fully charged) LiPO battery. BUT, I guess it's worth checking the complete path from terminals to ground and all other 'leccy connections.

Hadn't thought about injector. That's a good call. Any wisdom on cleaning them (it)?


Twin-Air filter and NotOil.


Cheers. Hold that thought. I'll run through the other possibilities you mention first and drop you a line if necessary.

Right on. I found my loose terminal wasn't obviously loose, but when I removed my Shorai and installed the OEM battery that first problem I had went away. Seems like these bikes a pretty sensitive that way.
After narrowing it down to clogged injector and cleaning it making it run perfectly I put the Shorai back in and have had no problems since. Logic says there was something loose or not passing constant voltage. Did this problem occur after installing the new battery?... what's the voltage on that battery? Might want to swap it back out to rule that out of the equation, since it's an easy job.

Do you have the new, grey KTM inline fuel filter kit that's supplied free via factory recall? the one that goes in the fuel line right before the injector? I did not have it in before I got the clogged injector.

As for cleaning the injector, following the wisdom on UH forum I cleaned it after removing it by using a 9v battery to "open" it and carb cleaner to spray it out while power was applied to it.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:48 AM   #3234
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Sounds interesting pRICK! Which oil adapter are you going with?
I will have an answer tomorrow. I will use a full flow system with remote filter. Two litres in the bash plate is probably too much, so might try to split it to 1-1.2 litre oil and enlarge the tool section. Should be able to mount a K&N or similar remote filter in the tool section.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:14 AM   #3235
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I will have an answer tomorrow. I will use a full flow system with remote filter. Two litres in the bash plate is probably too much, so might try to split it to 1-1.2 litre oil and enlarge the tool section. Should be able to mount a K&N or similar remote filter in the tool section.
Have you thought about using the extra filter housing KTM uses on the old 660 Rally bikes
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:21 AM   #3236
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Have you thought about using the extra filter housing KTM uses on the old 660 Rally bikes
Tell me more.......................photo's................ .......
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:14 AM   #3237
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I'm not able to download a photo in this thread it works fine in the racing thread there I can download from my PC but not in this thread for some reason but please PM me your e-mail adress I can send some photos of my 660 and by the way I also have a 570 Rally and need a safari front tank for Mongolian Rally.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:26 AM   #3238
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I think you mean the micro-filter housing that was used on various early LC4s, I had one on my 1999 LC4 620 Supercompetition.

Looks like this:







To be honest I am not sure if I would bother, the stock filter seems to do a good enough job. If you are increasing the capacity and therefore the oil intervals, I'd simply change it every time. Less weight, less lines to break, leak or rupture, etc.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:48 AM   #3239
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I think you mean the micro-filter housing that was used on various early LC4s, I had one on my 1999 LC4 620 Supercompetition.

Looks like this:







To be honest I am not sure if I would bother, the stock filter seems to do a good enough job. If you are increasing the capacity and therefore the oil intervals, I'd simply change it every time. Less weight, less lines to break, leak or rupture, etc.
That's the one Lucas thanks for posting the pictures looks a little bit different today but size is more or less the same.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:42 AM   #3240
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Any 70 Degree owners switching

Just curious now that the 2013s are coming out has anyone been switching bikes or thinking about it, and to what? Anyone riding the new FE450 or 501? What are your thoughts?
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