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Old 01-06-2011, 12:53 AM   #61
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Cool. I love that that your wife rides the tough stuff with you. Mine failed license school in Japan because they insist that everyone ride the same 500lb cb400 with too-high seat height, and she got black-n-blue from falling off, and gave up. I'm looking forward to getting her started at Pismo again on a KLX140 this Spring, then street later.

For the Berg go one size up to the 'duration' recommendation (LFX14) and you'll be sure to have reserve no matter how nasty it gets...

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The battery in the wife's ("Flying Ant") '08 KTM 250 XCF-W is starting to lose ... ummm ... "it's way." Charges easily - but only goes for a couple of cranks and then dies off quickly. It's been a bit over 2 years so not too much of a surprise.

And I wanted to thank you for all the info and balanced opinions, ND! I'm usually pretty willing to try new technology - but having dragging my feet on the Li batteries. You see, the wife's battery on her Katoom - is my "emergency backup" for my '10 Husaberg FE 390 (which doesn't have a kickstarter). If you saw where we ride ... you would understand our concerns on reliablility.
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:31 PM   #62
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Posted over in the SM chronicles in RW and was pointed to this battery.

What is the base and endurance application for an 07 950 SMR. is ADVmachines the dealer?

My bike sits for a month or more at a time. I keep it on a battery tender. Is this OK with the Shorai?
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:44 PM   #63
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We now have 950/990 Batteries in stock.
Duration Recommendation: LFX18A1-BS12 MSRP: $186.95

CCA (A): 270
Weight (lbs.): 2.12
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:17 PM   #64
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Shorai battery recommendation for Suzuki DRZ-400S

The Shorai website has 3 suggestions for a Suzuki DRZ-400S: LFX12A1, LFX14A1, and LFX09A2. The first two of these appear to be bigger than the stock battery (about 8mm taller) so I wonder if these really fit ?

Also, the stock battery is 7Ah, 120CCA, so why is the LFX09A2 the "race recommendation" ? At 9Ah, 135CCA it should be better than the original battery. Or is this because the numbers cannot be compared directly because of the different battery chemistry ?

NipponDave, I was going to ask this question on the Shorai website, but they insist on having my email, phone number and address, so that's a bit too much.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:41 PM   #65
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I have a battery tender. Is it harmful for the battery to be left on the tender? Also, no special charger needed?

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Old 01-08-2011, 10:16 PM   #66
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I went back to the website and it looks like battery tenders are OK in most cases. I just ordered one of the big batteriers for my 990. I hope a will get a good 4 years out of it. If it saves me 7 pounds and last 4 years the $100 extra will be worth it.

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Old 01-15-2011, 10:40 AM   #67
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The Shorai website has 3 suggestions for a Suzuki DRZ-400S: LFX12A1, LFX14A1, and LFX09A2. The first two of these appear to be bigger than the stock battery (about 8mm taller) so I wonder if these really fit ?

Also, the stock battery is 7Ah, 120CCA, so why is the LFX09A2 the "race recommendation" ? At 9Ah, 135CCA it should be better than the original battery. Or is this because the numbers cannot be compared directly because of the different battery chemistry ?
Wow! Thanks very much for catching this. It looks like we missed the height on the DRZ batts when we made the applications database. I have been updating the database for the past two weeks to make major improvements in the way model names display, add vehicles, and update to 2010/2011. I am also going through all the STD, DURATION, RACE recommendations to make sure they make sense. In the case of the DRZ batt, you are right. It should be LFX09 (std) LFX07 (race) LFX14(dur).

I hope to have the new selectors database online this Wed/Thurs.

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Old 01-22-2011, 05:27 PM   #68
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I did purchase the standard recommended Shorai battery for my TW-200 as the OEM finally gave up the ghost after being completely submerged twice last year. It was roughly twice the cost of the Yeasu replacement. When it arrived, my wife thought they had sent me an empty box, but no it actually is that light. Upon installing it my initial thoughts were that the terminals need to be a bit thicker. I didn't damage them, they just seemed a bit fragile.
I did not charge it per factory instructions, just bolted it up and started the bike. The Tdub is plenty cold blooded so she needed some cranking to get going. Usually, in the winter, I have to put a fresh charge on the battery to start her up, but the Shorai had plenty of crank to get her going. I let it run for 5 minutes and shut her off. I figured that I would run around on her the next day.
But it got cold, below zero cold, it was like -10F for a week, so she sat.
Middle of the next week it got up around 23F and I went skiing, but the next day I went out, drug the bike out of my semi-heated garage and started it in 30F. It took quite a bit of cranking to get her going, but the Shorai stayed strong first crank to last.
Torture test #1 is a pass, so far so good.
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Old 01-22-2011, 06:07 PM   #69
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Which battery for a 2009 ( I think ) BMW 1200GS adventure? ( my dads, he killed his stock one already probably the same way I do by leaving it all winter sitting off the charger too heh )

I just ordered the LFX18A1-BS12 for my '07 KTM 950 Super Enduro, from the looks of it the same would be good for my dads bimmer?

Edit: Also I'm using this charger is this fine? its a 1.5amp trickle motorcycle/atv charger from autozone.
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=298615_0_0_
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Old 01-22-2011, 08:04 PM   #70
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Which battery for a 2009 ( I think ) BMW 1200GS adventure? ( my dads, he killed his stock one already probably the same way I do by leaving it all winter sitting off the charger too heh )

I just ordered the LFX18A1-BS12 for my '07 KTM 950 Super Enduro, from the looks of it the same would be good for my dads bimmer?

Edit: Also I'm using this charger is this fine? its a 1.5amp trickle motorcycle/atv charger from autozone.
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=298615_0_0_
Yes, It calls for the same as the KTM. (LFX18A1-BS12)

We have those in stock ready to go.

As for the charger. As long as it doesn't have the desulification option, it should be ok, but I'll look into it.
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Old 01-22-2011, 10:36 PM   #71
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Thanks here is a link to the manufacturer of my exact charger

http://www.batterychargers.com/Produ...tName=94026717
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:37 PM   #72
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Thanks here is a link to the manufacturer of my exact charger

http://www.batterychargers.com/Produ...tName=94026717

The Update I got from Shorai was that this one should be fine as there is no menion of a "Desulfate Mode" and it states "Won't overcharge battery."
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:05 PM   #73
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The Update I got from Shorai was that this one should be fine as there is no menion of a "Desulfate Mode" and it states "Won't overcharge battery."
On page 9 of the manual (PDF file: http://www.batterychargers.com/Docum...00922-1009.pdf) it says:

Desulfation Mode If the battery is left discharged for an extended period of time, it could become sulfated and not accept a normal charge. If the charger detects a sulfated battery, the charger will switch to a special mode of operation designed for such batteries.
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:11 PM   #74
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Shorai's battery recommendation database still not updated

By the way, the information for the Suzuki DRZ-400S is still incorrect at www.shoraipower.com. Two of the suggested batteries are too large and won't fit in the battery tray on a DRZ-400S.
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Old 01-28-2011, 02:54 AM   #75
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It would be nice if they would indicate what their desulfation mode does... Some are "pulse" at standard teminal voltage (ok!) some are 16V (not ok).

In any case, Shorai can't explicitly recommend using a charger with a desulfation mode for which no information exists. Email the charger company and ask, perhaps?

We'll be putting together a list of popular chargers as soon as time permits, and will email their tech departments. Then list the "ok" chargers in our FAQ. For anyone who doesn't have a charger yet, or wants one with a dedicated STORE mode for LFX, I'd get our BMS01 charger when it is out (looks like mid to late March at this point, 2A max, about $79)

On a related note, it looks like these chargers are looking for a low voltage or high Ri situation before entering their desulfation mode. Neither of those cases should apply when the charger is connected to an LFX battery, but use of such a charger and the risk that the LFX could be damaged is the still the user's.

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http://www.batterychargers.com/Documents/00-99-000922-1009.pdf) it says:

Desulfation Mode If the battery is left discharged for an extended period of time, it could become sulfated and not accept a normal charge. If the charger detects a sulfated battery, the charger will switch to a special mode of operation designed for such batteries.
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