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Old 07-25-2014, 10:11 AM   #1
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Rough cold idol

Sorry guy, please be gentle, for some reason my SEARCH isn't working, it keeps sending me to a 'Page Unavailable" page.

2007 R1200GS - Since doing my last oil change about 3 weeks ago (not sure if it is related) I have had a really rough cold start idol. To the extent of the bike stalling a couple of times if left to run without throttle.

Any ideas on where I should look or what I should do? What sets the idol on the 07 1200GS?
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Old 07-25-2014, 03:29 PM   #2
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It is a long shot but you could have knocked one of the vacum plugs off a throttle body or unseated a throttle cable ?
Easy enough to check these first.
another thought if to do a tps reset(key on whack throttle wide open 2-3 times turn key off)

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Old 07-25-2014, 03:40 PM   #3
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Things to check,

Throttle body sync, plugs, throttle cable seated correctly, throttle body mount at the head comes loose and leaks, throttle shafts worn and leaking air, fuel pressure, compression. Simply changing oil couldn't cause you're problems. Best of luck. Keep us updated as to what you find out.
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Old 07-25-2014, 03:51 PM   #4
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We need more details. Does it run normally when warm? Does it accelerate normally? Does it cruise at speed normally hot and cold?

It is obvious that something was disturbed. What, other than an oil change, else did you do?
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Old 07-25-2014, 04:14 PM   #5
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We need more details. Does it run normally when warm? Does it accelerate normally? Does it cruise at speed normally hot and cold?

It is obvious that something was disturbed. What, other than an oil change, else did you do?
Now that I think about it I did check the air filter, maybe when putting it all back together I pinched or unplugged something on the right side.

She idols rough but without stalling when warm, she seems to accelerate fine (for a GS) and when crusing she runs at 4 bars, neither hot nor cold I imagine.
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Old 07-25-2014, 04:53 PM   #6
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Now that I think about it I did check the air filter, maybe when putting it all back together I pinched or unplugged something on the right side.

She idols rough but without stalling when warm, she seems to accelerate fine (for a GS) and when crusing she runs at 4 bars, neither hot nor cold I imagine.
Yup, you pulled the throttle cable loose from the junction box.




Just pop it back in and all will be well. This is the left side, yours will be on the right. There should be only one.
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Old 07-25-2014, 07:14 PM   #7
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Thanks JVB, am I able to get to this without taking any of the body panels off, I'm at work and off at 2230hs.
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Old 07-25-2014, 07:18 PM   #8
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Thanks JVB, am I able to get to this without taking any of the body panels off, I'm at work and off at 2230hs.
Yeah, you can tug it and it will usually snap back into position. Usually you can feel it go in.
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Sorry guy, please be gentle, for some reason my SEARCH isn't working, it keeps sending me to a 'Page Unavailable" page.

Any ideas on where I should look or what I should do? What sets the idol on the 07 1200GS?

I just google "cold Idol" and I got 19.000.000 result with the best at:

http://www.americanidol.com/

I guess that not the kind of Idol you are looking for..
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Old 07-26-2014, 02:29 PM   #10
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Yeah, you can tug it and it will usually snap back into position. Usually you can feel it go in.
Had to take 2 panels off and slide out the air filter cone but I was able to get to that part. I pushed it in and started it up. She didn't stall, the idol was still a little low but she didn't stall. Thanks everyone, especially JVB!!
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Old 07-27-2014, 03:08 PM   #11
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Had to take 2 panels off and slide out the air filter cone but I was able to get to that part. I pushed it in and started it up. She didn't stall, the idol was still a little low but she didn't stall. Thanks everyone, especially JVB!!
Idle speed is set by the stepper motors unless your slack is completely gone on the throttle cables. You can check the slack like this: http://www.jimvonbaden.com/R1200_TB_Sync.html

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Acheiving the required slack is trickier on the R1200 because you can't feel the slack. The only way is to hook up a Twinmax type device and then loosen the cables. Tighten one side until you get a reaction from the Twinmax, then back it off about one full turn. Do the same on the other side and you have both at about 1mm slack.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:13 PM   #12
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Update

So the bike still runs rough and stalls when started cold. I had the throttle body cleaned and the carbs sync'd. Still runs rough and nothing changed.

Broke down and took it into the a local shop, they scanned it on a hand held unit and it was throwing a 'FUSE BLOCK 3' code. They couldn't pinpoint what the problem was within the code but suggested the injectors be tested and cleaned if needed.

What are your thoughts??

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Old 09-03-2014, 08:12 AM   #13
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If I'm not mistaken the 'FUSE BLOCK 3' code also refers to the ignition coils.

If everything ran well until you monkeyed with it I would be very surprised if the injectors were the issue unless a connector is not fully seated, make sure that all the ignition coils are seated tight and the connectors are tight as well.
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Old 09-03-2014, 01:05 PM   #14
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Old 09-04-2014, 01:46 PM   #15
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If I'm not mistaken the 'FUSE BLOCK 3' code also refers to the ignition coils.

If everything ran well until you monkeyed with it I would be very surprised if the injectors were the issue unless a connector is not fully seated, make sure that all the ignition coils are seated tight and the connectors are tight as well.
Thanks mate, I will go over all the connections again just to be sure. The injector test runs about $100, so I would rather start with the simple stuff. Would a crappy battery (low voltage) cause the bike to run rough, even though it starts without issue?

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Thanks for the advice, I'll give it a try and see how the bike runs tomorrow morning.
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