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Old 01-03-2005, 07:08 AM   #1
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Question for all and sundry regarding XRvsKLRvs640ADV

I'm in the middle of the XR650-KLR-640ADV quandry.

There are two things I would like to find an answer to.

1. Rumor round town has it (OK rumor on here) that there may be a new

640 ADV coming out soon. Can anyone substantiate? Pics? Specs? Innuendo?

Innuendo (is that Spanish for butt sex ) sounds funny.


2. I had a 2001 KLR 6-fiddy I bought new in 2000.

See there.

Anywhos, after I had put about 6,000 miles on it, it got goofy. When I got on

the front brake hard, as the forks compressed the bars turned to the right

slightly. Also it got real squirrelly on the road (in corners). Now I never

wrecked it, I just rode it off road REAL hard. Lots of single track and stuff.

I dropped it on the trail at less than walking pace twice, other than that it

was never down. I thought a fork leg might have been twisted in a triple clamp.

So I hung it from my porch rafters and took it down to the headstock twice.

Never did fix it. So my question is, could I have bent the frame just from hard

riding? If so, that rules out another KLR. I did off-road ALOT with it. Jumping

off 1 to 5 foot ledges and all that stuff. Any ideas.

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Old 01-03-2005, 10:44 AM   #2
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KLRs are not meant for off road "real hard". This bike was a good start but you need to move on. I have not ridden a new XR but have met people way back in the bush with them. Lots of good stories. Despite there size they have ergo's for shorter riders, (I have sat on them.) I don't need to mention there is a Baja Designs kit for them.

However, my friend, if you plan on road trips you will want the ADV simply for the larger tank, stronger subframe and the nearly usefull fairing.

I know nothing of 04, 05 Adv's. And I have never had spanish butt sex.
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Old 01-03-2005, 10:54 AM   #3
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The KLR is a good bike for what it was designed for (earth crawling). It was not designed for the punishment you're dishing out.

Aside from hard dirt riding, what else do you plan to do with the bike? If you seldom see road, I'd convert a few bikes to street-legal condition that are more truly dirt oriented rather than to try to go from a street bike to the dirt.

If you do often commute on the bike (shorter trips) and don't plan on a lot of highway, the DRz400 would probably be the best bike for you.
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:13 AM   #4
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Why buy new? And other 640 thoughts here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=11

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64200
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Old 01-03-2005, 12:19 PM   #5
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First off, thank you to anyone for any insight.


Quote:
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KLRs are not meant for off road "real hard". This bike was a good start but you need to move on.
Actually I moved on in April 2001. I had put about 10,000 miles on in

about 5 or 6 months. A good half of them off road. I traded it in for my

SV. Didn't even kiss me when they quoted the trade in value .


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The KLR is a good bike for what it was designed for (earth crawling). It was not designed for the punishment you're dishing out.

Aside from hard dirt riding, what else do you plan to do with the bike?
I will put a Baja Designs kit on first thing (if it's an XR of course). Then it will

be used as a dirt bike and motard (once I get 17" rims). Lots of both. I also

want to be able to do 500 or 600 mile days without too much trouble.

Anyone know the particulars in getting an XR titled in North Carolina? Is it even

possible.

If I had to, I would just use my SV plate, but I would like to have 2 road worthy bikes.

Thanks Again

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Old 01-03-2005, 12:55 PM   #6
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... it will

be used as a dirt bike and motard (once I get 17" rims). Lots of both. I also

want to be able to do 500 or 600 mile days without too much trouble...
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Ummmmm, that's really the Holy Grail of Adventure Riding eh? An indestructible bike that can handle gnarly stuff with the ease of a trials bike and cruise at 90mph for 300 miles on a single tank in perfect comfort while driving fully heated gear.

My first thought for you, though, would be the KTM Duke 990 (that right?) or a DR650 with some heavy modding to the suspension. Any less than 650cc and I don't see 500-600 mile days being a reality unless you're a masochist. I can't think of anything else that would remotely take that kind of abuse or offer that kind of performance (with the DR being the abuse-able one, and the KTM being the performance machine).
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Old 01-03-2005, 01:20 PM   #7
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. I can't think of anything else that would remotely take that kind of abuse

XR 650? When I say 500 or 600, I mean curvy back roads. I try to NEVER

hit the interstate on any bike. So, mostly speeds under 80, average prolly

55 or so.
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Old 01-04-2005, 01:57 AM   #8
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Innuendo (is that Spanish for butt sex ) sounds funny.
I believe innuendo stands for insinuation
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Old 01-04-2005, 04:45 AM   #9
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:18 AM   #10
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I'm kinda partial to Honda thumps. Air cooling cuts your maintainence effort and/or costs by 1/3. Radiators, water pumps and liquid coolant are useless weight and increased potential failure points IMO.

I'm poor, I can't even think about new bikes or water cooled Eurothumps because of purchase price and maintainence costs.

If you can get over the small tank and lack of wind protection, Hondas will go wherever you point them. If something breaks, the toolkit is the size and weight of a 1 liter water bottle and will probably fix the problem. Chances are the rider will break before the bike does. If you can change a tire and adjust your own valves, you will never have to talk to the service counter guy at the stealership.
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:56 AM   #11
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ssppps. euro water cooled maintenence is a myth.not anymore or less than the big four.
Unless you go exotic like VOR of TM but thats the exception. still water cooling adds very little to nill in maintenence cost but adds to longevevity and reliability. why do you think almost ALL modern bikes are water cooled. Hondas the big holdout on the XR'L and me thinks it's at the end of it's heroic run. DR650 oil/air cooled and it is at the end of it's production run as well. anymore?
just about everything nowadays is water cooled.
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