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Old 12-22-2010, 12:18 PM   #1
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Airhead in a Minivan- So Easy It Could Be Illegal!

A couple weeks back I looked at my options for getting me and a bike from snow covered MN to FL and concluded that my minivan was the way to go. Many inmates contributed suggestions- flip the handlebars, strap down the front end, etc.- to get the 43 inch tall airhead through the 40 tall rear hatch. Then I measured the side door- Hmmm... 44 inches tall and 30 inches wide. The airhead in question, an R65LS, is 28 inches wide across the cylinders and with the R100R bars I've got on it about 30 inches wide there.

So I pulls the rear seats out and line up my 7 foot long ramp with the side door. Was so damn easy it could, in some instances (like if it's not your bike) be illegal. Push the bike up the ramp, ass end first, with the sidestand bungied in the down position and in gear so you can stop it by releasing the clutch. The bike will make it about 80% in before you bump up against the left wall of the minivan. Then just skid the ass end around as needed and after a couple back and forths you're ready to tie her down.

The only complication was when I tried to fit the ramp in the minivan- it's a couple inches too long and the rear hatch wouldn't close on it. That ramp being sized to fit in the bed of my Ranger 7 foot bed pickup I didn't want to cut it down. So I made a new ramp just for the minivan, 80 inches long and 30 inches of usable width. It fits on the left side with an inch or so to spare, so I've still got plenty of space to fit clothes, tools, etc. for the trip to sunny Florida next week.

More details for those wanting to try this themselves, presuming it's your bike or a consenting friends you're hauling off- The minivan is a 2000 Mopar short wheelbase model with just the right side rear door and roll out rear seats. The bike is one of the smallest airheads, an R65LS with low bars and a fold away Napolean mirror, so this entry probably wont work with an R100GS. But no doubt that won't stop someone form trying!
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Old 12-22-2010, 03:37 PM   #2
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Old 12-22-2010, 04:07 PM   #3
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Glad it the bike fit in the van, enjoy the warm FL weather and we will see you in the spring at the Minnesota Tech Day

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Old 12-22-2010, 05:01 PM   #4
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Old 12-22-2010, 08:57 PM   #5
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:45 AM   #6
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:32 AM   #7
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It is illegal. Unless you drain the gas and oil or have a bulkhead with a closable door. Mostly noone cares.. except the State Highway Patrol. There is also some legal issues with load securement. Again only the State patrol cares.

I place a 2x12, on edge, against the back of the front seats to give the bike something to brace against under braking/strapping down.
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Old 12-23-2010, 07:51 AM   #8
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It is illegal. Unless you drain the gas and oil or have a bulkhead with a closable door. Mostly noone cares.. except the State Highway Patrol. There is also some legal issues with load securement. Again only the State patrol cares.

I place a 2x12, on edge, against the back of the front seats to give the bike something to brace against under braking/strapping down.
Keep in mind, That everything is illegal.
It just depends on how bad they want to fuck with you.
I call it the "discretionary magic bag of infractions."
Yes, you can quote me on that.
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Old 12-23-2010, 08:03 AM   #9
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Keep in mind, That everything is illegal.
It just depends on how bad they want to fuck with you.
I call it the "discretionary magic bag of infractions."
Yes, you can quote me on that.
True, and why we need new and fresh people in power here in the US. Repeal all the stupid laws. BUT some of the stupid laws are there to keep dumbasses from killing themselves or us...
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True, and why we need new and fresh people in power here in the US. Repeal all the stupid laws. BUT some of the stupid laws are there to keep dumbasses from killing themselves or us...
Let the stupid kill themselves. I haven't read a good 'Darwin Award' in years.
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Old 12-23-2010, 09:02 AM   #11
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It is illegal. Unless you drain the gas and oil or have a bulkhead with a closable door. Mostly noone cares.. except the State Highway Patrol. There is also some legal issues with load securement. Again only the State patrol cares.

I place a 2x12, on edge, against the back of the front seats to give the bike something to brace against under braking/strapping down.

Well if this is true the leos can fill their ticky books at ANY moto race. Most guys start with pick-ups because they already have them ,then after a few trips hauling your ready to race steed in the back exposed to weather and prying eyes and sticky fingers they get a van.

Although not really theft proof a van offers a sence of security. A blanket over your pride and joy helps. I've had up to three bikes in the back from New Hampshire to Florida and west to Colorado and never been ticketed or even warned.
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Old 12-23-2010, 10:23 AM   #12
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It's legal, providing...

You're not hauling commercially, under 10,000 pounds GVW, and it's your bike or that of a consenting friend.

The bike is properly tied down with 4 straps, each of which has a working strength greater than the weight of the bike... Thus it even meets California's tight standards for flatbed load securement. I don't have a copy of 49CFR391 et seq at hand, but those regs cover commercial vehicles and this isn't one. As for the hazmat, the quantities of fuel and oil are far below the thresholds requiring placcarding, etc.. I've got two fuel tanks I'm bring with, and both will be carried back by the vent windows just in case they want to, well, vent.

So the bike is well restrained and accident that could break the bike free or any flamables on fire would be so severe that the bike would be the least of my worries. The other options- riding the bike or trailering on icy roads- are more risky. And with the bike inside the minivan and restrained, the threat to the motoring public is far less than some of the unrestrained junk we see litterally thrown in the back or pickups and flatbed trailers every day.
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Old 12-23-2010, 10:38 AM   #13
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Keep in mind, That everything is illegal.
It just depends on how bad they want to fuck with you.
I call it the "discretionary magic bag of infractions."
Yes, you can quote me on that.
Love this statement, could be good enough for a signature.
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Dang, Buell, you sound like a retired bureaucrat...
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Old 12-23-2010, 10:56 PM   #15
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I guess if it doesn't hurt anyone but yourself it's to much to ask for the freedom to do so in a free country.

I was going to chid you for driving a minivan but it appears that you are a woman so I won't. : )

Have a fun safe trip and hual your damn mc how ever the hell you want.
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