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Old 12-29-2010, 03:37 AM   #1
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side car on a 50cc?

is it possible to fit a side car to a scooter (50cc) and also is it legal (here in england)
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:46 AM   #2
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Sidecar on a 50cc

It is possible. These are from the 1964 Honda cub accessories catalog.
Legal? I don't know in England but if it was from the factory it was legal over here.
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:19 AM   #3
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I just saw a moped of some sort with a home made sidecar rolling down the road the other day. I didnt get a very good look at it. Looked like some tubing, plywood, and a bicyle wheel but he was doing it.
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:28 AM   #4
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the law?

right been looking on the net and know that fitting one is the easy part! the hard part is can i ride one i have a full UK car licance passed before the 2001 cut off i have cat B1 and a P on my licance so can i legally ride one on the uk? I have had a look on the gov site but as i am not the sharpest person in the world i dont realy understand it :(
Can any one help?
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:50 AM   #5
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Yep, it is definitely possible. I even had seen a video of an Elite 50 with a sidecar on youtube. I would give you a link to it, but I can not find it right now, but if I find it I will provide the link.

But the only issue is the 50 cc might be quite a bit underpowered for a side car. It will put a lot of stress on that little motor and it may not be great for it. But if you just do it once in a while, I don't see why not.
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Old 12-29-2010, 11:49 AM   #6
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I agree that you are asking a lot of a 50cc motor, to handle a sidecar. However, if it is not a (human) passenger need and you're just looking to handle a small load, maybe a bicycle cargo trailer would do the job? Don't know the legalities in the UK, so Good luck!
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:03 PM   #7
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IMHO.. adding a sidecar to a 50cc is like dragging an anchor.

A 50cc scoot is already limited in its ability to reach 35-45 MPH but adding a third wheel and associated weight would remove its ability to be nimble and add nearly 50% more weight to the scoot. I can see adding a small trailer but not a side car.

Just my 2 cents/pence.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:14 PM   #8
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Yea, it is especially hard since it is a CVT 50 cc. A regular 3 speed or 4 speed trail bike engine would have no problem pulling it of in 1 gear or second gear. My CRF 50 can pull 3 people around the yard in the wagon in low gears! But a scooter CVT is not made for those kinds of loads. You could slowly damage your engine.

If you had a Honda Trail 90 type motor with a 4 speed hi/low transmission it would be a different story if you could throw it in low. But not on a 50 cc scooter, you will probably eat at your clutch. But if you just plan on using a small light sidecar and throwing a few groceries in once in a while, no problem. But if you plan on putting people in heavy stuff, consider a Ural.
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:45 PM   #9
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Maybe something like this:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=592072

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Old 12-30-2010, 02:30 PM   #10
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A lot of weight, off to the side puts a great deal of stress on a frame. 50cc scooters are typically weight and price-point challenged, not likely to be overbuilt. I'd go with something a little more old-school. A Stella would do nicely, serious steel on those puppies & a bit more juice as well.
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Old 12-30-2010, 04:53 PM   #11
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Try www.scooterworks.com and www.kellyskustomtrike.com. They both have sidecars for scooters. Kellys Kustom also has trike kits for scooter and both sidecars and trikes for 50cc scooters. Good luck.
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Old 12-30-2010, 06:37 PM   #12
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try total rukus forum theres a thread about it. http://www.scooter-sidecars.com has alot of them . Here one homemade for a helix. He used a old 80cc endro bike rear bike frame. you ll find out more at yahoo group but you ll have to have yahoo account to view the picutures.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hondah...tart=1&dir=asc
basic set up of a sidecar :
http://bikerodnkustom4.homestead.com...ry_watson.html

a bike sidecar diy page: ( I do mean bike )) http://www.steves-workshop.co.uk/veh...decarbuild.htm

Whoops just found the rukus sidecar build thread. http://totalruckus.com/phpBB3/viewto...p?f=15&t=35745

lots of ideas here: http://www.instructables.com/id/Buil...cycle-Sidecar/
vespa side car shows frame http://www.chaneysworld.co.uk/vespacosaandsidecar.htm
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Thats about it for info. You could try a craglist search engine to find a small sidecar. Anyway that s most of the info except all the pictures I ve got on my hardrive of small side cars. Don't want to up load them.

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Old 01-01-2011, 03:40 PM   #13
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Do I see a seat on the 'outrigger' of the car?
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:36 PM   #14
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I am sure it could easily be done, but I agree with others. A 50 cc engine just doesn't have the torque and power if you plan on putting a person in it. It also could street on the frame a tad, but I wouldn't worry about it if you design it well.

Also the brakes on a 50 cc scoot may be a bit worrisome if you plan on much street riding, unless they are good disk brakes. But yes, a CVT transmission would not do as well as a geared 50 cc for this purpose, but I would think it could handle it.
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:36 PM   #15
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yep the guy never took the orginal seat off it. Just cut the frame of xs80 in half. Then weld it up to a simple frame.
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