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Old 12-29-2010, 04:13 PM   #1
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Evap Fuel Nozzle (EFN) Tool

This tool is designed to hold the spring loaded boot back for you while you're filling your tank and or gas can.
The tool is the same size as your drivers license/gas card and being only 1/8" thick will fit in your wallet or a jacket pocket.
It is made of ABS plastic to prevent damage to the paint finish on your fuel tank
It's easy to use and makes filling up a cinch.
Slide the tool over the nozzle, depress the boot past the ring that holds the nozzle in place on a car fuel filler, and slide it over to lock the boot in place.
Yes I know that they are already out there, but I'd like to think that mine is better than the others and cheaper to boot, i.e. $5.00 shipped.
That price is for the lower 48 since I'm simply slipping the tool into an envelope and slapping a stamp on it. Anyplace else will be $5.00 plus shipping, i.e. whatever it actually costs me to do the same thing to places outside the lower 48.






Here is a video clip showing how easy it is to use the tool.
The first couple of seconds show how how you have to hold the boot back to activate fuel flow, followed by the EFN Tool in use.




pm me if interested.

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Old 12-29-2010, 09:18 PM   #2
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Trying to gauge if there is any interest in a tool that makes it easy to use vapor recovery fuel nozzles.
I know that they are in use in CA, but don't know where else.
The tool I came up with is the same a size as your drivers license/gas card and will fit in your wallet.
It's easy to use and makes filling up a cinch.
Yes I know that they are already out there, but I'd like to think that mine is better than the others and cheaper to boot, i.e. $5.00 shipped.

I'll add pics of the tool in use, as soon as I go fill up.



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Why do you feel that is better than this?



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Old 12-29-2010, 09:43 PM   #3
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Because the tines of the fork can catch the boot while my tool slips over the nozzle itself and is then slid across beneath the ridge, capturing the boot. Once my tool is on the nozzle you can't drop it, while fumbling with the open tool and heavy gloves invites dropping it.
I tried the open tool, which is why I looked for a better solution.
Mine is also cheaper, the Aerostich sold tool is $8.00, plus shipping.

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Old 12-29-2010, 10:14 PM   #4
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:32 PM   #5
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Vapor Recovery Nozzle Tool

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That's a nice line-up,btw.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:49 PM   #6
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:58 PM   #7
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Thanks Steve, it'll go in the mail tomorrow.
Once you've received it please let me know how it works for you.

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Old 12-29-2010, 11:07 PM   #8
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I hate to sound pessimistic, but how does this thing help?

The vapour recovery boot fit fine around my tank filler neck and the pump switched on just fine

I was annoyed by the loss of fuel capacity, to get the tank full I had to compress the silly thing by hand so I could pull the nozzle out far enough to fill all the way and still have the pump run.

putting a piece of wood on there will only gain the height of the threaded portion, an inch maybe? not a substantial difference in fuel capacity.

Is there some factor I'm missing here? I only bought gas in California twice so maybe there is another reason.
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Old 12-29-2010, 11:14 PM   #9
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"I was annoyed by the loss of fuel capacity, to get the tank full I had to compress the silly thing by hand so I could pull the nozzle out far enough to fill all the way and still have the pump run."

That's what the tool is designed to do. It holds the boot back for you so that you can actually top the tank off.
It just makes it easier.
I've used mine for about two years now and when we go on group rides my buddies always ask me where I got it and if they could have one. That's why I decided to start making them for sale.
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Old 12-29-2010, 11:22 PM   #10
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why?

In the Peoples Republic of California we've got these POS vapor recovery foreskins that limit the volume you can get in the tank. They work on a automobile gas tank with a lengthy filler neck. But are a PITA on a bike. You can try to pull the foreskin back with one hand so you can see if you can fill the remaining volume without squirting yourself in the face while holding the nozzle with the other. These devices free up one hand so you can hold the nozzle and still look into the tank.

Some of us have bikes with marginal tank volumes like the Transalp, so I like to get the tank as full as possible. Many of my older bikes have a hump in the middle which prevent proper insertion of the nose into the tank. No fuel will flow unless you compress the foreskin.

I like his take on the idea and wish the creator good luck.

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Old 12-29-2010, 11:25 PM   #11
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"I was annoyed by the loss of fuel capacity, to get the tank full I had to compress the silly thing by hand so I could pull the nozzle out far enough to fill all the way and still have the pump run."

That's what the tool is designed to do. It holds the boot back for you so that you can actually top the tank off.
It just makes it easier.
I've used mine for about two years now and when we go on group rides my buddies always ask me where I got it and if they could have one. That's why I decided to start making them for sale.
Okay that makes perfect sense, the pictures above showed the pump nozzle all the way in, essentially having little effect.

If the tool will hold the boot compressed so you can pull the nozzle out to top off then its a great idea.

Acting just as a washer like in the picture, meh

I'm going to write a letter to the Governor now, explaining that their recovery nozzle reduces tank capacity for us and therefore requires us to fuel up more often, causing more chances of releasing dangerous fuel vapours into the atmosphere.

Perhaps a motorcycle adapter can be supplied at each gas station. It would have to be nothing more than an extenstion to the existing vapour recovery boot to reduce the effective nozzle length.

come to think of it, we had a vapour recovery system here for a short period of time, it was nothing more than an accordian hose attached to the existing pump, and it did in fact reduce the effective nozzle length.
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:04 AM   #12
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Sorry about the crappy pictures but I was by myself and trying to hold the nozzle with one hand and taking pics with the other.
The second pic shows the tool holding the boot which allows you to lift the nozzle out of the tank for a full fill up.
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:23 AM   #13
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Sorry about the crappy pictures but I was by myself and trying to hold the nozzle with one hand and taking pics with the other.
The second pic shows the tool holding the boot which allows you to lift the nozzle out of the tank for a full fill up.
thanks it makes perfect sense now, I wasn't realizing that it would hold the boot compressed on its own
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:34 AM   #14
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when i saw that device in the areostich catalog, i thought "crap-ola". so this is deja vue all over again. yes these days,the foreskin nozzles are used in more than just calif. and i've personally have been able to outsmart 'em ( although from now on i'm going to feel a bit gay pulling it back).... maybe the next generation of foreskined nossels???- i'm going to pass- i'm fine on crap
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:53 AM   #15
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when i saw that device in the areostich catalog, i thought "crap-ola". so this is deja vue all over again. yes these days,the foreskin nozzles are used in more than just calif. and i've personally have been able to outsmart 'em ( although from now on i'm going to feel a bit gay pulling it back).... maybe the next generation of foreskined nossels???- i'm going to pass- i'm fine on crap

Bully for you , but outsmarting 'em is having a tool to hold it back for you....
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