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Old 01-17-2011, 05:15 AM   #1
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Question Quick question: Can I ride a non-street legal dirt bike in Baja?

So myself and a few friends are planning a trip to Baja in a couple months and plan to trailer dirt bikes to San Felipe and stay with from friends and do a few day rides from town out into the desert. I would like to ride parts of the Baja 250 course and some other trails in that area. Maybe go see CoCo etc. A couple of the dirt bikes we are bringing (Gas Gas 200EC & Cannondale E440R) don't have "dual registration" in the states. So no plates, only green sticker CA registration. 90% of our ridding will be out in the desert off the pavement but it would be nice to ride into town and on the highways if needed. Will we be ok with no plates or are we asking for trouble? I have ridden many times to Baja but always on big bikes such as my 990ADV.

Also if anyone knows of some good routes/trails in the San Felipe area could you share them?

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Old 01-17-2011, 07:42 AM   #2
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It's Mexico. It's not legal; however.......
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:06 AM   #3
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I have ridden in Baja and Mainland Mexico with no plate and have had no problems, maybe just didn't get caught yet. Just don't pull any wheelies or blow stop signs while in town.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:54 AM   #4
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I'm also curious about this subject.

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I have ridden in Baja and Mainland Mexico with no plate and have had no problems, maybe just didn't get caught yet. Just don't pull any wheelies or blow stop signs while in town.
Baja Ho, was the no plate bikes that you rode already imported to Mexico?

I know that riding a bike without plates in Mexico is not a big problem but won't the problem be taking the vehicles across the border and into Mexico?

I have also been contemplating bringing down a no plate bike to Mexico. If the bike is not plated, then it seems like the aduana would consider it a toy that's being imported to Mexico and try to charge import duty on it, which I think is around 20% of the value of the item.

Unlike a plated bike, if there is no plate, then how can they know if the bike will ever be returned to the US or not?

Has anyone here ever brought a no plate bike into Mexico legally?

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Old 01-17-2011, 12:13 PM   #5
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Well, there is legal,...and...what you can get away with.

I have been to Baja twice, but crossed the border several times. The bike was never checked. In fact crossing into Baja I was not even stopped. Nor stopped on the Mexico mainland. Coming back to USA my ID was checked but not the bikes. Remember, Baja CA is a free zone, no import papers necessary.

I bypassed the Baja CA/Baja Sur checkpoint going down and was asked for my papers when coming back north. No problems. They just charged me the fees for going to Baja Sur and let me go. Just a few minute exchange. The bike was not checked.

My guess is the only problem you would have is on the US side.

Carry proof of ownership and go.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:38 PM   #6
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Cool, Thanks for the replies. I have many times seen people ridding around on the street with no plates especially in San Felipe around Baja 250 time of year. We will bring current registration papers and a copy of the tittle just in case. I will also get insurance for them and NOT ride like a ass in town.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:54 PM   #7
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I was on a trail ride with "rented bikes" (XR400R) no mirrors, no plates no problem see my ride report link below.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:05 AM   #8
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+1 With what TheTourist said, post 5

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Baja Ho, was the no plate bikes that you rode already imported to Mexico?
No, the only place you need import papers is mainland, Baja no problema.

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I know that riding a bike without plates in Mexico is not a big problem but won't the problem be taking the vehicles across the border and into Mexico?
No problema.

I have also been contemplating bringing down a no plate bike to Mexico. If the bike is not plated, then it seems like the aduana would consider it a toy that's being imported to Mexico and try to charge import duty on it, which I think is around 20% of the value of the item.

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Unlike a plated bike, if there is no plate, then how can they know if the bike will ever be returned to the US or not?
Good Question, but still no problema in Baja, and the import papers that you fill out for mainland will take care of that.
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+1 With what TheTourist said, post 5


No, the only place you need import papers is mainland, Baja no problema.


No problema.

I have also been contemplating bringing down a no plate bike to Mexico. If the bike is not plated, then it seems like the aduana would consider it a toy that's being imported to Mexico and try to charge import duty on it, which I think is around 20% of the value of the item.


Good Question, but still no problema in Baja, and the import papers that you fill out for mainland will take care of that.

OK thanks, good info. Sounds like 911 will be fine with the no plate bike in Baja. I am in mainland Mexico and am fairly certain there's no legal way around paying import tax on a dirt bike, same as bringing in an expensive flat screen TV. It's just considered merchandise being imported to Mexico. Whereas a plated vehicle is viewed as temporarily being taken into Mexico and can be tracked through it's plates and title.
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No problem in Baja California - I've ridden a non-plated XR400R across the border. The guards didn't even stop us. Rode around for a couple of days, mostly off road, but went right through tecate and a few other small towns. No issues at all and saw many other non-plated vehicles on the roads. We didn't make it down to Baja sur so I don't know about that.
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:17 AM   #11
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I would guess 60% of local bikes I see in Mexico have no plates. When you temporarily import a vehicle into Mexico they register your VIN, not your plates. You can drive around with different plates all day long and the permit you have just states the car type and VIN number, there is no reference to your plates. Having written that, I do not know if they will allow the vehicle in with no plates, good question.
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Cool, Thanks for the replies. I have many times seen people ridding around on the street with no plates especially in San Felipe around Baja 250 time of year. We will bring current registration papers and a copy of the tittle just in case. I will also get insurance for them and NOT ride like a ass in town.
This is exactly how its done, every time, with ZERO problems. (I've been doing it since the late 1960's)
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