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Old 11-08-2011, 04:12 AM   #91
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My bike is a 2007 990 adventure and I installed 2007 Super Duke cams. Wayne dyno tuned the bike after the cams where installed. My bike was having some fueling issues when I when I dropped at the shop. I am very happy with the bike at this time. It pulls much better and my fuel mileage went from 27 to 36 mpg and i was beating it! Wayne did mention my 2 into 1 hurts the improvement the super duke cams provide at the top end so I thinkin about giving up my Aux tank and going back to a 2 into 2 system. Cj will have a full system designed by Powercell in the future.

So my option are a full system with stock fuel tanks and maybe add a 2 gal Rotopak for long trips or replace the front tanks for $1600. I still thinking of my options and how much to spend, the extra power from a full system may only end up around 4 to 5 hp and it is a lot of cash. It seems a single hp improvement can cost $200 to $400 each!

So the super duke cams are a good improvement, you will need to remap and they may not be a great addition if you are running a 2 into 2.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:14 PM   #92
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Are these the 07' 990 Super Duke cams you guys are talking about running?

990 2009-11 ADV,SMT-R, 2007-11 Super Duke**
611 36 010 000 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST FRONT
611 36 009 000 CAMSHAFT INTAKE FRONT
611 36 109 000 CAMSHAFT INTAKE REAR
611 36 110 000 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST REAR


I took these from CP's list. I didn't see this specified w/ part numbers?

I just did some dyno runs on my 950 ADV. I'd like to swap them in before I make any more changes to get a back to back check.

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Old 11-10-2011, 07:27 PM   #93
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Yes, those are the cams I installed in my bike. Hope they work out for you.
I was trying to come up with a way to get a 2 into 2 exhaust one side, I don't think it will work.

Back to the drawing board.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:08 PM   #94
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It looks like I'll be getting a set of SD cams from inmate Willis.

Once I'm done rebuilding the 525, I'll throw them into the 990 and measure them the same way I did the stock 990 and 950 cams.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:58 AM   #95
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Yes, those are the cams I installed in my bike. Hope they work out for you.
I was trying to come up with a way to get a 2 into 2 exhaust one side, I don't think it will work.

Back to the drawing board.
Thanks Ken. Might try and swap those in this weekend and get some time on it before the snow really starts around here.

If anyone else is looking for these cams or any cams, I might be able to put a package price together?

Dang.... Good luck.
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:34 AM   #96
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Thanks Ken. Might try and swap those in this weekend and get some time on it before the snow really starts around here.

If anyone else is looking for these cams or any cams, I might be able to put a package price together?

Dang.... Good luck.
I'd be interested in hearing the package price for SD cams.....
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:40 AM   #97
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ktm cams

Guys i have a set of cams removed from a superduke r 09 i will sell them for 270$ inclu postage

let me know
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:26 AM   #98
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Adjustable 990 Cam Gear Concept

For one idea on how to make the cam timing adjustable, please see: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=748170

Any feedback welcome!
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:26 PM   #99
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KTM Cam Specification Comparison

Ha, bet you thought I had forgotten about all this...

In any case, I just wrapped up checking timing and lift specs on all three KTM cams: Stock 990, Stock 950 and SuperDuke.

Here are the results:



There are slight tweaks to what I published previously. Measuring the 950 cams was especially problematic since the extra knob they have on the end blocks direct dial indicator access to the shim bucket. This is problematic since one must correct for the angle of measurement and the fact the shim bucket rocks in its bore depending upon whether the cam is on the opening or closing ramp. Unless properly accounted for, this can induce as much as 1.5 degrees of error.

In any case, I'm very confident in the above KTM numbers. I did not measure the Supermoto aftermarket cam mentioned by Tahoeacre and I include those specs, some of which were calculated, for reference purposes only.

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Old 04-03-2012, 12:34 PM   #100
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Are the K610's SD or SDR cams?


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Old 04-03-2012, 01:54 PM   #101
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Are the K610's SD or SDR cams?


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Hi I am the guy that sold you the crank.

The 610s are 2006 superduke cams. 07 SD and SDR use the same cam which is 611.

the 610s have more duration than the 611s
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:28 PM   #102
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LC8 Camshaft Part Numbers (EU/UK/AU models are generally 1 year earlier than USA):

950 All Years ADV, SE, SM
600 36 010 144 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST FRONT (superseded by 600 36 010 200)
600 36 009 144 CAMSHAFT INTAKE FRONT
600 36 109 144 CAMSHAFT INTAKE FRONT
600 36 110 144 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST FRONT

990 2005 Super Duke*
610 36 010 044 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST FRONT
610 36 009 044 CAMSHAFT INTAKE FRONT
610 36 109 044 CAMSHAFT INTAKE REAR
610 36 110 044 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST REAR (superseded by 610 36 110 100)

990 2006 Super Duke*
610 36 010 144 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST FRONT
610 36 009 144 CAMSHAFT INTAKE FRONT
610 36 109 144 CAMSHAFT INTAKE REAR
610 36 110 144 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST REAR

990 2007-2008 ADV
601 36 010 000 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST FRONT
601 36 009 000 CAMSHAFT INTAKE FRONT
601 36 109 000 CAMSHAFT INTAKE REAR
601 36 110 000 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST REAR

990 2009-11 ADV,SMT-R, 2007-11 Super Duke**
611 36 010 000 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST FRONT
611 36 009 000 CAMSHAFT INTAKE FRONT
611 36 109 000 CAMSHAFT INTAKE REAR
611 36 110 000 CAMSHAFT EXHAUST REAR

* Not imported into the USA
** 2009-2011 not imported into the USA
Here are the part numbers previously posted by cpmodem
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:32 PM   #103
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Thanks BillyD... I should have thought about reading back a bit. And thanks Willis for getting the crank to me so quickly.


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Old 06-14-2012, 02:21 AM   #104
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Ha, bet you thought I had forgotten about all this...

In any case, I just wrapped up checking timing and lift specs on all three KTM cams: Stock 990, Stock 950 and SuperDuke.

Here are the results:



There are slight tweaks to what I published previously. Measuring the 950 cams was especially problematic since the extra knob they have on the end blocks direct dial indicator access to the shim bucket. This is problematic since one must correct for the angle of measurement and the fact the shim bucket rocks in its bore depending upon whether the cam is on the opening or closing ramp. Unless properly accounted for, this can induce as much as 1.5 degrees of error.

In any case, I'm very confident in the above KTM numbers. I did not measure the Supermoto aftermarket cam mentioned by Tahoeacre and I include those specs, some of which were calculated, for reference purposes only.

Just looking at the cams so the 990 and SD are different to the 950 cams. So how do they fit in the 950s as have pitted lobes on my 950 want to know my options.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:06 AM   #105
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My bike is a 2007 990 adventure and I installed 2007 Super Duke cams. Wayne dyno tuned the bike after the cams where installed. My bike was having some fueling issues when I when I dropped at the shop. I am very happy with the bike at this time. It pulls much better and my fuel mileage went from 27 to 36 mpg and i was beating it! Wayne did mention my 2 into 1 hurts the improvement the super duke cams provide at the top end so I thinkin about giving up my Aux tank and going back to a 2 into 2 system. Cj will have a full system designed by Powercell in the future.

So my option are a full system with stock fuel tanks and maybe add a 2 gal Rotopak for long trips or replace the front tanks for $1600. I still thinking of my options and how much to spend, the extra power from a full system may only end up around 4 to 5 hp and it is a lot of cash. It seems a single hp improvement can cost $200 to $400 each!

So the super duke cams are a good improvement, you will need to remap and they may not be a great addition if you are running a 2 into 2.
I'm running a 2-into-1 on my (EU) '07 990S and planning to install the '07 990SD cams. Is there any chance you would be willing to share the mapping differences / details (or even better, the map itself) ? I know you paid for the dyno tuning and remapping, so i won't ask you for your map, unless you want to share it voluntarily.






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Thanks Ken. Might try and swap those in this weekend and get some time on it before the snow really starts around here.

If anyone else is looking for these cams or any cams, I might be able to put a package price together?

Dang.... Good luck.
CJ, is there any news on a group pricing for 990SD cams ?





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Guys i have a set of cams removed from a superduke r 09 i will sell them for 270$ inclu postage

let me know
is an 09 SDR cam the same as an 07-11 SD (611) ? can i use this on my '07 990S ?
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