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Old 08-29-2014, 04:03 PM   #4186
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I had to peel that belt off twice in one trip from El Paso to Red River, takes a fair bit of luck to get 100,000 out of a drive belt. They collect rocks.

...and I haven't owned a "jap bike" in 12 years. The triple was over 50,000 miles when it needed a shim, the Daytona never has, and its a 9,300 mile check on the Duke.
just switched over to chain drive on my scrambler for that very reason. 50k so far on the street bike and no issues.

I currently own two. One is a piece of cake with adjustable tappets, the other is a pain in the ass and requires cam removal. thankfully they seem to stay in spec for about forty thousand miles.
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Old 08-29-2014, 04:30 PM   #4187
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The belt on my Road King looked perfect at 62k miles when I traded it in, my Limited as about 36k miles and no belt issue so far. I've never even adjusted the belt between tire changes, of course I've left the belt guard in place and rarely did either bike see any off road excursions. I don't read much about belt failures, except with highly modified bikes and those that take the belt guard off.
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Old 08-29-2014, 07:37 PM   #4188
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The belt on my Road King looked perfect at 62k miles when I traded it in, my Limited as about 36k miles and no belt issue so far. I've never even adjusted the belt between tire changes, of course I've left the belt guard in place and rarely did either bike see any off road excursions. I don't read much about belt failures, except with highly modified bikes and those that take the belt guard off.
Try living two miles up the side of a mountain on an "improved" road sometime. I started locktiting the the battery connection on Speedy, I'd get to pavement and stop at a stop sign and clunk....bike would die....the battery terminals would rattle lose.

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Old 08-29-2014, 09:09 PM   #4189
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Try living two miles up the side of a mountain on an "improved" road sometime. I started locktiting the the battery connection on Speedy, I'd get to pavement and stop at a stop sign and clunk....bike would die....the battery terminals would rattle lose.

YMMV
Some have been more lucky than you:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=509

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603979

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/forwood/index.shtml

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Old 08-29-2014, 09:30 PM   #4190
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200,000 miles on Harleys, never had to change a belt.


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Old 08-29-2014, 10:23 PM   #4191
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200,000 miles on Harleys, never had to change a belt.


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My Harleys had chains......I replaced four in 5 years on my ex's pair.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:32 AM   #4192
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200,000 miles on Harleys, never had to change a belt.
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200,000 miles divided by 20 Harleys equals 10,000 miles each?
Or were all your Harleys using chain drive?
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Old 08-30-2014, 04:13 PM   #4193
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200,000 miles divided by 20 Harleys equals 10,000 miles each?

Or were all your Harleys using chain drive?

4 bikes, none chain driven.
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Old 08-30-2014, 04:52 PM   #4194
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touring belt gaurd

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4 bikes, none chain driven.
my 99 FLHTPI HAS NO upper belt gaurd; I think this IS the problem with most belt failures.
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Old 09-01-2014, 06:50 PM   #4195
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05 Road king closing in on 100,000 with the original belt and it's seen plenty of gravel.
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Old 09-01-2014, 07:02 PM   #4196
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80,000 miles on the original belt of my E Glide. The last HD had 45,000 on the original belt when i traded the bike. I have 2 friends who put miles on HD's, those guys buy new bikes about 100,000 - 120,000 miles, never a belt problem. I know of a 2003 HD Heritage with 137,000 miles with everything original still going strong.
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I wish some of the Japanese STwould run belts. Lots less maintenance . Chains are not needed on non bleeding edge bikes like the vfr and the fz series.
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Old 09-02-2014, 08:38 AM   #4198
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I wish some of the Japanese STwould run belts. Lots less maintenance . Chains are not needed on non bleeding edge bikes like the vfr and the fz series.
Dunno about that, with most SSSA set ups you can change the chain and sprockets on the side stand (I can and have with my Speed Triple) they couldn't get me in and I had no desire to sit in St. Louis for two days so bumbed a wrench big enough to get the counter shaft and changed the sprokets in the parking lot. Much to the amusement of some of the customers.


Belts are great IF you never have a desire to putz with gearing, look at the Buells, the first thing a racing buel got was a chain conversion.

Chains aren't really that much maintenance if you aren't in the dirt, I regularly get over 25,000 miles from a chain, but I never got this odd idea that chains are supposed to be clean and pretty, hell no, gunk the crap out of it it, and when you see shiny rollers gunk it again, the chain adjusters on my 675 are worn the hell out, but that is because its been doing double duty as a track bitch, you won't pass tech at the manual chain tensions, so it gets slacked, then I give it to a shop for something (usually fork oil, I hate doing fork work) and they "fix the loose chain" for me and I have to slack it again. For the single sided bikes it takes me literally two minute to do the chain adjustments, KTM was even nice enough to put markers in the upper chain slides so you can tell when its getting loose. Good thing that damn chain is like a mile and a half long, so its hard to tell by toeing it like I do with the other bikes.
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Old 09-02-2014, 05:10 PM   #4199
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You havent tried a belt have you?

You can change the ratio of belts as well. Lots of people put xb12 parts on the xb9 to to that.

Belts get twice the life.

How did you change the rear sprocket on the side stand?

It might not be that hard but its not really necessary when there is technology available to get rid of it.

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Old 09-02-2014, 06:26 PM   #4200
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80,000 miles on the original belt of my E Glide. The last HD had 45,000 on the original belt when i traded the bike. I have 2 friends who put miles on HD's, those guys buy new bikes about 100,000 - 120,000 miles, never a belt problem. I know of a 2003 HD Heritage with 137,000 miles with everything original still going strong.
I guess I'm just lucky enough to have two failures in 75000 miles. Both times after putting on new HD dunlops on rear; a rock got on top of the belt and traveled on top of the belt, to the front pulley,then stayed there long enough to mess up the belt. I think I should build a gaurd for the top, has anyone made one for a touring HD with hard bags?
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