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Old 12-26-2014, 05:37 PM   #1
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I am going to help my son buy his first street bike.I was looking for suggestions, my 2 other children started on ninja 250s when they were 19 (not to powerful). my last one is going to be 21 about 180 lbs and is a good dirt bike rider. We were looking at suzuki sv650.Any suggestions?
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Old 12-26-2014, 05:42 PM   #2
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has he passed his test? if not i would say 250 or a 400 my be better.
as a 650cc is not a good idea as a 1st ever road bike.

i have a gsxr 600 srad and it goes very fast and i am glad i worked up to it.
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Old 12-26-2014, 05:48 PM   #3
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Yes he has passed his test. This summer he was riding my 800 cc bmw f560gs and is a very cautious rider. The reason we looked at the 650 was it has about 70 hp (it is not a rocket). What street bikes are there in the 400 cc range I was hoping for fuel injection, in the $2500 - $3500 range. Thanks again for your input.
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Old 12-26-2014, 06:08 PM   #4
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Yes he has passed his test. This summer he was riding my 800 cc bmw f560gs and is a very cautious rider. The reason we looked at the 650 was it has about 70 hp (it is not a rocket). What street bikes are there in the 400 cc range I was hoping for fuel injection, in the $2500 - $3500 range. Thanks again for your input.
I would think with dirt bike experience he would be fine on a 650. Plus, anything smaller and a year from now he'll be wanting something more powerful anyhow.

Plus I think some people forget the bike doesn't determine the speed. The rider does.
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Old 12-26-2014, 06:48 PM   #5
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Why ask here, where opinions are like arseholes?

Everyone has one, no matter how irrelevant it is to your (son's) situation.

Why not ask your child?

With dirt bike experience, your son's opinion is probably as valid as any…. Post adolescents remain your offspring, but they should have long since stopped being children.

Why doesn't he work to earn money to buy the bike of his dreams (or means)?

Sure get him a cheap'n'cheerful runabout to get to work, or study. Anything more than that suggests a mollycoddled brat with an overblown sense of entitlement. But having left a broken home as a teenager and muddled my own way without any family support since, perhaps my opinion is a bit cynical.
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Old 12-26-2014, 06:57 PM   #6
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I am going to help my son buy his first street bike.I was looking for suggestions, my 2 other children started on ninja 250s when they were 19 (not to powerful). my last one is going to be 21 about 180 lbs and is a good dirt bike rider. We were looking at suzuki sv650.Any suggestions?
The SV650 should be a fine choice. If he's got some experience, and it sounds like he does, he'll have no problems.
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Old 12-27-2014, 10:57 AM   #7
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The SV650 should be a fine choice. If he's got some experience, and it sounds like he does, he'll have no problems.

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Old 12-27-2014, 11:19 AM   #8
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I started on an SV650, I didn't even take the MSF course (which I should have) I just went out and learned on my own, and I was ok other than the two times I got target fixed and ran over into dirt and ate it.

It's not too big of a bike for a beginner, and in theory it's all the bike he'll ever need. I like how it has the torque to be fun below the speed limit, unlike crotch rockets where the fun comes once you're over it.

They can be had for cheap with low miles, the front suspension on them is subpar and the rear brake sucks balls.

for the love of god, stay away from the yamaha FZ6R
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Old 12-27-2014, 11:43 AM   #9
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SV650 is a good bike, and with his size should be no problem.

Of course I have one, so I may be biased.
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Old 12-27-2014, 11:47 AM   #10
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The SV650 should be a fine choice. If he's got some experience, and it sounds like he does, he'll have no problems.
Well said. He should be able to handle it easily and it's powerful enough so that he won't need a new one next year. The SV650 would be my choice.
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Old 12-27-2014, 03:26 PM   #11
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My older (24 years old) son has an fz6. I definitely will stay away from that.We were also looking at a GS500, but he likes the looks and probably the little extra power of the SV. Thanks for all your input, now we just have to find one!
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Old 12-27-2014, 03:54 PM   #12
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I had a SV650 and my son routinely rode it. It was a nice balance of ride, power, and handling. There's a nice variety of new bikes in that class but in your price range the SV seems like a good choice.
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Old 12-27-2014, 04:47 PM   #13
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CC size means something but not everything. No way to compare a 600 sport bike to a 650 starter-cruiser or KLR.

The SV is one good choice. Reliable, pretty good availability. Look for the 2nd generation, '03 to '10. After '10 it is the SFV650 Gladius, but probably out of your price range. What bikes from the other Japanese makers are comparable just to give more purchase options?
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Old 12-27-2014, 05:23 PM   #14
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Got a glee, almost a SV. Great powerband, linear and predictable, enough but not too much. Suprizingy capable on the freeway for just a 650 but won't scare a confident beginner.

I can't speak for the handling of the SV but the Strom is a Lazer guided missile.
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I recommend to my MSF students to consider a more "standard" upright bike that gives you the best riding position to learn the riding and traffic in the first really critical months that lead to longer term suvival.

Engine size itself is not the only issue, as engine character is more important. A peaky powerband GSXR600 is tougher to learn on than a broad torquey powerband SV650. If you consider engine size alone it would rule out the Honda NT700, which has a great torquey motor that is easy to ride, but does lack the higher rpm rush.

So again I go back to a standard upright riding position that makes it comfortable to have an easy head/eyes up approach to learning traffic and road strategies. Once you learn that, then I feel a rider has earned the abilities to approach road riding on a bike more like a sport bike, or a bike with a peaky powerband.
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