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Old 02-18-2011, 02:44 AM   #16
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1. Yes, one 20mm wheel, one 26mm hub
2. $50
3. $50

Nanno, see my post above. I already checked, standard bearing sizes don't work. The diameter of the hub changed between the 17/20/26mm bearings.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:38 PM   #17
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1) No
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(20 or 26 would be fine)
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:08 PM   #18
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We're looking into this for a small batch run.

There is no way we can build an axle for the prices requested this time around for this small of a run.

We'll looking more into a 17-26mm adaptor bushing kit as the 17-20mm would have a spacer too thin and the reason I made an axle the first time around 4 yrs ago.
Pricing for the bushing sets are not set until we can get a test set made and a quantity verified how many we need to make.
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Old 02-22-2011, 12:14 AM   #19
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Thanks for the update cjracer. Sounds like the 17 to 26 sleeve might be the way to go. I assume the 17mm spacers would be too small to just sleeve the wheel, are you thinking about sleeving the whole axle? In that case the 26mm spacers/speedo are probably the wrong width and this setup would require custom spacers. Would that kill the price?
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:41 AM   #20
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I don't have a LC4 anymore to work from. Christian and I are hoping to work something out.

I found that unless you change to another speedo drive from the 17" wheel of that time. (Expensive) The speedo was not accurate. I switched to a Trail Tech computer w/ a magnetic pickup. I kept snapping the Drive cable from wheelies. It was cheaper in the long run to swap to a different computer.

To do stuff correctly it takes time and sometimes more money than you thought when you look into all the options.

The newer 26mm/17" hubs don't have a mechanical drive on them anyway IIRC. You'd have to run w/ no speedo, or change to an electronic system.

Every rider has to look into there own needs and what they can afford.

I'll update more when we have something off the lathe.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:49 PM   #21
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Interesting problem...

It seems the speedo drive may not work... newer wheels use magnets...

Do the adaptors need to be steel? (To carry the bearings)

Can they be built like giant spacers (two pieces that sleeve the whole axle) and incorporate the spacer function ?

It would be nice to have something to model from... I haven't seen anything yet...

At KTMtalk a member had a machinist build up fork braces for 50mm WP forks (17mm axle also), a brace was supplied to replicate. It required 15 people to put up the funds up front and resulted in all of us getting a very nice brace and, hopefully, Gary making a few bucks for his time and expertise.

There may be a market on that forum too for a good design....
Are we able to do something like that here?
How far can cjracer go without some kind of commitment?
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:42 PM   #22
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I think something was lost in communication, I was talking about swapping the same wheel size but 17mm to 26mm axles. I think RZ is probably right, that you'd essentially need to sleeve the entire axle with a sleeve that incorporates the spacer on one side, with a custom spacer on the other to replace the speedo. Something like this:



The left side would have a 17mm ID and 26mm OD, the right side would butt up against the step on the stock axle and have an OD to space the 26mm bearing surface. The width of the step on the right side would have to be the same as the stock spacer width on the brake side of the 17mm wheel.

Then there would need to be a second piece to space the speedo side of the wheel with a 26mm ID and the same width as the stock 17mm speedo.

I can provide measurements for the stock parts if needed. I have some spares lying around.

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Old 02-23-2011, 10:03 AM   #23
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I am back from a trip and will be looking into this the coming weekend.

I will borrow a friend's 26mm wheels and make measurements for cjracer.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:51 PM   #24
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measurement and pictures sent to cjracer.
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:48 AM   #25
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Time for an update.
The prototype set is on the way to me for testing and making sure it all fits.

and CJRacer has some pricing, it'll be $58 shipped .

For this to happen, we need to have 10 sets ordered and he can start production - so ... tell me who wants one.

I need (via PM) your full name , email address and hard anodized color preference ORANGE or BLACK.
Only one color will be produced whichever has majority.

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Old 03-28-2011, 11:59 AM   #26
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Excellent! Can I get some details... this is the sleeve for a 17mm axle to fit a wheel with 26mm bearings? How are the spacers incorporated -- does the sleeve include spacers for stock alignment, and if so which model is the alignment based on? Is there anything on the speedo side? (I assume there is not) Measurements of all dimensions would be great, but I understand if cjracer doesn't want to give them up as he did the work.

Great job following up on this, thanks! I will put my order in as soon as I hear back on the above.
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:00 PM   #27
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Excellent! Can I get some details... this is the sleeve for a 17mm axle to fit a wheel with 26mm bearings? How are the spacers incorporated -- does the sleeve include spacers for stock alignment, and if so which model is the alignment based on? Is there anything on the speedo side? (I assume there is not) Measurements of all dimensions would be great, but I understand if cjracer doesn't want to give them up as he did the work.

Great job following up on this, thanks! I will put my order in as soon as I hear back on the above.
No speedo, no 26mm wheel have speedo pickup.

The spacers will replace the stock spacers on the 26mm wheels. I'll take some pictures once I am done with testing.

so it's not a sleeve or something goofy, it replaces the spacer all at once.
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:31 PM   #28
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Good point on the speedo, guess I should have checked my wheel first

OK, so it comes with a spacer that replaces the stock part. In that case is it designed to replace the following spacer part:

54609051000 SPACER RING 17 X 25 X 7,5

I assume so, since this was used on most LC4's with 17mm axles.

Thanks!
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Good point on the speedo, guess I should have checked my wheel first

OK, so it comes with a spacer that replaces the stock part. In that case is it designed to replace the following spacer part:

54609051000 SPACER RING 17 X 25 X 7,5

I assume so, since this was used on most LC4's with 17mm axles.

Thanks!
the only piece you'll reuse is the axle, everything else will be the 26mm wheel and custom spacers.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:14 PM   #30
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