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Old 10-31-2013, 03:36 PM   #1
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Feeler, Extreme riding tours

If your anything like me, you like to ride and ride hard.
One thing I have had difficulties doing, is finding guys to ride ADV bikes with that know how to screw it on and don't back down to an off road challenge.
Luckily, I have been fortunate enough to find that hard core group.

After taking a few tours and organized rides I came away a bit disappointed, not that I didn't enjoy myself, but was slightly bored with the low mileage and slow paced/easy routes that the organizers put forth.
I've been thinking of this for some time, and have put some of the pieces in order.
I guess what I would like to know is do you feel the same? would you entertain the possibility of doing a tour or rides that is more catered to advanced riders on big bikes?
Less hotels, more riding , more technical, and more speed.
I would love to hear your thoughts

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Old 10-31-2013, 09:33 PM   #2
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While I agree that many of the current offerings hold little interest for me for some of the reasons you cited, and what seems to be more of a focus on a friendly social gathering that happens to also include a bit of riding each day, my thoughts after reading your post and query left me thinking there is no way I'd book with you cuz I'd spend the whole time worried I am holding folks up. I can put serious hours in, and I get everywhere I want to go eventually, but I am fully aware of my meager talents as a rider and doubt I would ever be comfortable signing up for a tour or ride where the the words "hard core" were featured on the "about us" page.

I would think there is a market for this, whether it is big enough to make it worth your while for coordinating, I hope you get enough feedback here to help gauge that.

Good luck with it, maybe some day I'll have the confidence to join the fun, until then I'll keep enjoying my solo explorations.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:13 AM   #3
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While I agree that many of the current offerings hold little interest for me for some of the reasons you cited, and what seems to be more of a focus on a friendly social gathering that happens to also include a bit of riding each day, my thoughts after reading your post and query left me thinking there is no way I'd book with you cuz I'd spend the whole time worried I am holding folks up. I can put serious hours in, and I get everywhere I want to go eventually, but I am fully aware of my meager talents as a rider and doubt I would ever be comfortable signing up for a tour or ride where the the words "hard core" were featured on the "about us" page.

I would think there is a market for this, whether it is big enough to make it worth your while for coordinating, I hope you get enough feedback here to help gauge that.

Good luck with it, maybe some day I'll have the confidence to join the fun, until then I'll keep enjoying my solo explorations.
Thanks , I appreciate your feedback
I absolutely love railing the big KTM. Hopefully others feel the same way.
Maybe "hard core" is not the right wording, Spirited or advanced riding certainly would be. We want to have fun and not alienate good riders.
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:56 PM   #4
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That's a big bike to take an extreme tour on. I could see a couple hours running hard but 8-12hrs in the saddle would kill me on the nasty stuff. I know that it takes everything I have to do 300 miles off road on my 570 in a day. And then to wake up and do it again is fun but it kicks my ass on a bike half the weight lol. I need more ballast for riding :)
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:08 AM   #5
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That's a big bike to take an extreme tour on. I could see a couple hours running hard but 8-12hrs in the saddle would kill me on the nasty stuff. I know that it takes everything I have to do 300 miles off road on my 570 in a day. And then to wake up and do it again is fun but it kicks my ass on a bike half the weight lol. I need more ballast for riding :)
You'll find the bigger bikes far more comfortable than a 570, You need to get some more big bike riding under your belt Todd.
Your new 950 wont disappoint you.
We are not talking really about knarly off road, Well some on big bikes might think so, but those are not the guys Im attempting to cater too. What it would be is quick passed, advanced, Adventure riding.
Im not trying to make any profit on this, just putting together some great rides with like minded riders.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:57 PM   #6
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I agree a 100% about more saddle time. I actually just picked up some new tires for the beast. I tried taking it off road with the stock scorpions and it didn't end well. My problem is going to lie in the fact that I want to ride it on road as well. Not sure how the 908/606 is going to work for the road.

When I get more saddle time I would be up for a adventure ride like what your talking about. People seem to forget that you don't have to take the same line if you don't feel up to it. I am also thinking about taking the beast off road for a couple of weeks in Baja this season.
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:53 AM   #7
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"Not sure how the 908/606 is going to work for the road"

Easy answer... Great! you wont be doing triple digit speeds but well worth the tradeoff.

Hopefully some will have interest, not to much so far.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:03 AM   #8
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Where in this country can you ride hard offroad for days on end and not be backtracking or getting arrested for trespassing anymore.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:09 AM   #9
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out west

Keith you have not been out west ,,,,ok your turn LOl
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:24 PM   #10
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Yes out west my friend. Lots of routes for all experience levels.
Our plan is to cover WA,ID,MT,OR,CA,NV,UT,CO and BC
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:53 AM   #11
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Where in this country can you ride hard offroad for days on end and not be backtracking or getting arrested for trespassing anymore.

In the western states you can literally ride for days, weeks without retracing any of your steps. The ride's Ive done with offroad-ryder have been phenomenal, some of the best in Washington Ive done so far.
Im really looking forward to seeing how this comes together!
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Old 11-04-2013, 02:16 PM   #12
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:13 PM   #13
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I have been on several group rides my self, and have been bored to tears, when stuck in a long, dusty line of riders moving at whatever pace the slowest rider in front of you is going. I don't know what sort of format you are considering, but what really worked for me was having a gps track of the days route, and allowing riders to break up into smaller groups, or even riding solo.
Everyone meets up at food or gas stops, so the group dynamic is still there.
I was concerned when a group of 3 had a bike failure, and had to spend a night out in the desert. The leader was an experienced rider who stressed self-reliance, and his comment was," It's not an adventure until someone needs to start a fire."
Everything worked out fine, and that was one of my most favorite rides ever.
But, that kind of a program isn't for just anyone.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:23 AM   #14
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I have been on several group rides my self, and have been bored to tears, when stuck in a long, dusty line of riders moving at whatever pace the slowest rider in front of you is going. I don't know what sort of format you are considering, but what really worked for me was having a gps track of the days route, and allowing riders to break up into smaller groups, or even riding solo.
Everyone meets up at food or gas stops, so the group dynamic is still there.
I was concerned when a group of 3 had a bike failure, and had to spend a night out in the desert. The leader was an experienced rider who stressed self-reliance, and his comment was," It's not an adventure until someone needs to start a fire."
Everything worked out fine, and that was one of my most favorite rides ever.
But, that kind of a program isn't for just anyone.
I have the same feelings. On one ride this summer a few of us rode threw two days of planned riding, in one day, and still had a great afternoon at the river. I like to socialize, but want to ride more.
Our plan here is to do small groups with GPS tracks, but also make sure no one is left behind. You wont see us with a dozen guys in a group.
Now if we all meet up in the late afternoon that's great.
These rides will be for riders looking to throw down some mileage both on and off road, with a heavy concentration on the harder or more advanced way around.
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