The All New 2013 LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

[JimVonBaden]

Originally Posted by kbasa

wasserboxer or waterboxer

That doesn't follow the pattern.

AIR head
OIL head
HEX head
CAM head
WET head

See, it needs three letters and two sylables!

Jim

[JimVonBaden]

Originally Posted by ka5ysy

Except the rider now... Looks like the water radiator is on the right side with a fan system, and the oil cooler is on the left. Lots of heat dumping on the riders legs. Yikes !


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No oil cooler at all by the photos!



Oil flow



Water flow. Rad on the left, tank on the right.

Jim

[slipknot]

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

That doesn't follow the pattern.

AIR head
OIL head
HEX head
CAM head
WET head

See, it needs three letters and two sylables!

Jim

The pattern is now increased sophistication and technology, forever leaving behind all simple monikers. Bubble head- One can label the bike and the rider with one label. It rolls off the lips like the exhaust note. I'm going to practice stuttering for added effect. BBBBBBBubbbbble. Hypnotic and hip.

[sleepyOwl]

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedScot They have added electronic trickery which has not been tested long term as was the Ducati's on the launch of the MS. .

What gave you this idea? Perhaps you're not familiar with the electronic issues that some MTS12 owners have faced up to now.

Liking the prospects of the new GS very much.

My meaning was that Ducati had NOT tested the electronic trickery long term. I can attest to it after having DES preload error.

[Beemerlover]

Looking at those engine/tranny/cooling system pics, I'd say that we have the winner of the 2013 Rube Goldberg Award!!

That has to be the most complex two-cylinder power train ever designed - let alone put into production!

[Marki_GSA]

Originally Posted by displacedScot

Quote:

What gave you this idea? Perhaps you're not familiar with the electronic issues that some MTS12 owners have faced up to now.

Liking the prospects of the new GS very much.

My meaning was that Ducati had NOT tested the electronic trickery long term. I can attest to it after having DES preload error.

No Italian manufacturer tests anything to do with electricity, ever. The are famous for producing really bad wiring and electronics.

[/dev/null]

Originally Posted by Motorfiets

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news...1200gs-photos/

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-c...-mega-gallery/

all 293 high res photo's in one place

Thank you. And thank the developers of the Linux/UNIX command, "wget".

[khale]

Do we know if this '2013' will be available for pre-order in the next few weeks? Any info from the inside on when this bike ships would be appreciated

[Desert John]

I put down a deposit Tuesday, Oct. 2 for anticipated March delivery.

[Eddy Alvarez]

I did read somewhere that pricing will be at or below current GS pricing...I will try to find that info today and post it here! Maybe $14,000 Teneres have kept the price down. Officially, "No news on price yet, but BMW has confirmed that the UK will be offered an exclusive R1200GS TE (touring edition) version with many factory-fit options as standard. However, at the moment there's no sign of an Adventure version, which in the UK normally accounts for close to half the sales of GSes." Also, there's word of a "Enduro Package" that will make it much more off-road worthy. Metal bags? Beefier skid plate? Engine and tank guards? Handguards? Who knows...?

One thing is for sure! I am liking this bike more and more! I would paint the "Samurai sword" radiator covers black and repaint the beak and tank cover in the same pearl yellow as my 2005 GS!

I also heard mention that BMW's LED headlight may not be offered as an option in the US due to DOT regulation ...Harley Davidson offers a very similar but DUAL "Daymaker" LED set on their CVO Road Glide that supposedly is crazy BRIGHT!

See Link: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/568/14127/Motorcycle-Article/Harley-Intros-New-LED-Daymaker-Headlamps.aspx

[khale]

Originally Posted by Desert John

I put down a deposit Tuesday, Oct. 2 for anticipated March delivery.

What color? I'm ignoring all the pessimism on this board. BMW continually improves these bikes! Can't wait to preorder mine.

[TuonoBiker]

Originally Posted by Eddy Alvarez

I did read somewhere that pricing will be at or below current GS pricing...I will try to find that info today and post it here! Maybe $14,000 Teneres have kept the price down. Officially, "No news on price yet, but BMW has confirmed that the UK will be offered an exclusive R1200GS TE (touring edition) version with many factory-fit options as standard. However, at the moment there's no sign of an Adventure version, which in the UK normally accounts for close to half the sales of GSes." Also, there's word of a "Enduro Package" that will make it much more off-road worthy. Metal bags? Beefier skid plate? Engine and tank guards? Handguards? Who knows...?

One thing is for sure! I am liking this bike more and more! I would paint the "Samuri sword" radiator covers black and repaint the beak and tank cover in the same pearl yellow as my 2005 GS!

I also heard mention that BMW's LED headlight may not be offered as an option in the US due to DOT regulation ...Harley Davidson offers a very similar but DUAL "Daymaker" LED set on their CVO Road Glide that supposedly is crazy BRIGHT!

See Link: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/568/14...Headlamps.aspx

That would really suck if it isn't available in the US. But, as you pointed out, HD already has this option. I know you've been able to buy the single 7 inch round LED from Harley as an upgrade to the current Touring bike lineup. The CVO's have it as standard I believe.

With the number of cars sporting true LED headlights (available on most Audi's), you'd think the DOT regulation should be easy to pass in this case. Looks like the LED headlight for BMW comes with the LED turnsignals, too. I dig it...nothing beats awesome lighting at night...

[Midnullarbor]

Beemerlover (#2750) makes a very good point.

The gearbox/transmission is remarkably over-complex. Power from the crankshaft must go through four pairs of gears before reaching the shaft in the swingarm. (Versus only two pairs, in the current & past boxers ~ certainly one of the reasons contributing to the current fuel efficiency superiority over the transverse-crankshaft "big shafties" like the S10 and the Explorer.)

The extra friction must worsen fuel consumption a bit ~ probably more noticeable at lower throttle openings.
Maybe the slightly higher compression ratio will counteract that, to some extent.

Still, you can see that the engineers were aiming at compactness of design, and were okay with some compromises in order to achieve it. (In the face of an un-compact cylinder layout which had to persist.)

Transmission efficiency aside . . . it all looks very impressive.

[SourKraut]

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

That doesn't follow the pattern.

AIR head
OIL head
HEX head
CAM head
WET head

See, it needs three letters and two sylables!

Jim

Except there is no water in the heads. It is a waterboxer.

[Voluhzia]

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

Water flow. Rad on the left, tank on the right.

Jim

Two radiators and only one on the right has a fan