The All New 2013 LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

[island808]

I vote Hydrocephaly

[Jan from Finland]

Originally Posted by simoneau

I don't thimk anyone has mentioned the absence of an oil pan. This is a drysump engine, thus lowering the engine in the chassis by 3-4 inches.

Except they did stuck a transmission under the engine.

[mcstark]

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

IF we see this any time soon, we will likely call it a WasserBoxer. That seems to be the prevailing feel I get.

Jim

That's what Porsche called their flat six when they went to water-cooled heads.

[Murkidi]

+1
I like it !!!! but first I have to own a hexhead an then a camhead to reach the wethead!!!!!

Originally Posted by johnjen

I like em short, simple, and to the point.

WetHead

JJ

[JStancampiano]

That looks like a wet clutch in there.

Joe

Originally Posted by Jan from Finland

Here is a link: http://www.motorradonline.de/de/moto...1250-lc/365973

Mostly speculation and an iterview of Hendrik von Kuenheim, Director of BMW Motorrad, who tries to play it down by saying "I can assure you, we will stick to the air cooled boxer for years." and " The boxer, as it is designed today, can meet the future limits for exhaust and noise. It doesn't force us to water cooling.".


Photo: By BMW via Motorrad

[Emoto]

Originally Posted by JStancampiano

That looks like a wet clutch in there.

Joe

To me, the interesting thing is that engine power output is not routed through the center of the clutch, leaving the clutch on a different plane. If this means that clutches can be serviced without removing the back half of the motorcycle, it would be a HUGE improvement.

[gelandestrasse]

Originally Posted by Emoto

To me, the interesting thing is that engine power output is not routed through the center of the clutch, leaving the clutch on a different plane. If this means that clutches can be serviced without removing the back half of the motorcycle, it would be a HUGE improvement.

It looks like the crank runs right through the center of the clutch.

[Jan from Finland]

Originally Posted by Emoto

To me, the interesting thing is that engine power output is not routed through the center of the clutch, leaving the clutch on a different plane. If this means that clutches can be serviced without removing the back half of the motorcycle, it would be a HUGE improvement.

I guess you are talking about the transmission output shaft, not the engine output.

Asymmetry could also lessen engine roll when you blip the throttle.

[pavement pounder]

why is there a chain driven and gear driven cam at the same time. Am I missing something? Where's the water pump

[Jan from Finland]

Originally Posted by pavement pounder

why is there a chain driven and gear driven cam at the same time. Am I missing something?

To make it narrower?

Originally Posted by pavement pounder

Where's the water pump

Could be an electric one, like they use in BMW cars.

[Kawidad]

Originally Posted by pavement pounder

why is there a chain driven and gear driven cam at the same time. Am I missing something? Where's the water pump

Gear driven dual cam shafts off of a chain driven crank gear is a very common engineering solution to cam drives methods. It is on many different modern motorcycles. It works well.

[kvr929rr]

The K-bikes have their cam drives like that and the electric water pump makes the most sense from a packaging viewpoint. It would also reduce power drain on the crank. With a multiplate clutch being on the crankshaft like that I would think the trans would be located vertically on the side, not underneath. Vely intelesting.

[ragtoplvr]

I expect they raised the cylinders a bit more for more corner clearance. Then you have room for the transmission. Shared oil for engine and transmission lets you use the sump space for some gears. Just think of all the oil threads now.

Rod

[little foot]

Where is the prebuy form please??

[JimVonBaden]

Originally Posted by ragtoplvr

I expect they raised the cylinders a bit more for more corner clearance. Then you have room for the transmission. Shared oil for engine and transmission lets you use the sump space for some gears. Just think of all the oil threads now.

Rod

Jim