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Old 12-19-2012, 12:02 PM   #4066
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I'm pricing unveiled at 11395 pounds for base model, that's about $18500 USD. Owch.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:11 PM   #4067
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Are they accepting orders yet?
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:19 PM   #4068
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I'm pricing unveiled at 11395 pounds for base model, that's about $18500 USD. Owch.
I"m not sure what you just said, but if you are trying to derive a US price from the UK you can't translate from other countries to get a US price. Try it for the previous GS and see. Fact is in most countries, the new GS is being sold for same price as the old GS. I think that is the best metric you can go by at this point.

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Old 12-19-2012, 01:52 PM   #4069
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Are they accepting orders yet?
You absolutely SURE you'd want to purchase one after MOTORRAD's stupidity.
Not a single rider outside of the EU was selected. 5 possible winners.

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Old 12-19-2012, 08:04 PM   #4070
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doesn't have the slightest impact on how i view the new water cooled GS nor the BMW corporation.

looking forward to test riding it next spring.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:35 PM   #4071
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Does somebody knows the "dry weight" of the new GS ?
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:35 AM   #4072
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Does somebody knows the "dry weight" of the new GS ?
The press release shows 524 pounds ready to ride (wet). Not sure of dry weight.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:43 AM   #4073
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Does somebody knows the "dry weight" of the new GS ?
I know BMW posts the dry weight, however, I have always questioned what's the purpose of dry weight, for comparison. Comparison to what? You can't ride a bike with dry weight. To me, personally I look for all fluids along with gasoline (petrol) filled and ready to ride.

I suppose it will come handy if other manufacturers only post dry weight.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:44 AM   #4074
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I know BMW posts the dry weight, however, I have always questioned what's the purpose of dry weight, for comparison. Comparison to what? You can't ride a bike with dry weight. To me, personally I look for all fluids along with gasoline (petrol) filled and ready to ride.

I suppose it will come handy if other manufacturers only post dry weight.
I agree and there is no formal definition of 'dry'. I hear some manufacturers exclude the battery on dry weight for example.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:04 AM   #4075
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I can understand your arguments.

But, if you want to buy a R1200GS or a R1200GSA, the wet weight doesn't give you a clear weight gap because the tank is larger on the ADV and perhaps some parts are also heavier.

It is also supposed that BMW weights his bikes in the same way and this implies the dry weight has some meaning (in same brand).

My question was : dry weight WC to be compared to R1200GS DOHC 203 kg (447 lbs) keeping in mind that the WC has an ABS in standard equipment.

By the way, what is the weight of the WC ABS ?
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:17 AM   #4076
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I can understand your arguments.

But, if you want to buy a R1200GS or a R1200GSA, the wet weight doesn't give you a clear weight gap because the tank is larger on the ADV and perhaps some parts are also heavier.

It is also supposed that BMW weights his bikes in the same way and this implies the dry weight has some meaning (in same brand).

My question was : dry weight WC to be compared to R1200GS DOHC 203 kg (447 lbs) keeping in mind that the WC has an ABS in standard equipment.

By the way, what is the weight of the WC ABS ?
Gas weighs about 7 lbs/gallon, so very easy to do the math on the tank size/weight of gas between the GS and GSA. The GSA is a GS with bigger tank and some extra equipment, so not sure what you are getting at by wanting to know the weight of a GSA without the extra gas and equipment....its going to equal a GS.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:50 AM   #4077
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you are right, the dry weight will show how much "dead weight" there is between the 2 models out of the box.

The strange thing is that dry weight is given for all models but not for the new GS.

For me, the weight is one of the main variable for a bike, specially if you want to go in various environments.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:59 AM   #4078
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As an engineer, when actual data is not available, you try to approximate as close as possible and leave some room for error. In this case I would find the difference in weight of current model 2012 GS/GSA using "dry", and do the same for "wet". Now you have 2 weights. Add 1-2 lbs for ABS (chime in guys if I am wrong in my ABS approximation). We are assuming that GSA gas tank will remain same as current. In the new, they might shave off 1-2 lbs using stronger and lighter plastics. This will cancel with weight added due to ABS. To approximate the wet weight of a new GSA, add the wet difference to new 2013 GS model. So there you have it. Similarly you could approximate dry weight backwards.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:14 AM   #4079
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weight is one of the main variable for a bike, specially if you want to go in various environments.
Yes, but it becomes fixed variable, you can't decrease it but will only increase due to farkling etc. No matter which environment you go on the globe, it will remain static. Am I missing something here? Perhaps you are trying to figure out something that we don't know
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:19 AM   #4080
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