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Old 01-25-2013, 03:09 PM   #4381
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If you guys ae not going to call it a "WetHead", at least spell out "Water Cooled" insead of calling it a"WC". A WC is a water closet, or toilet room.

Besides, are not MOST bikes water cooled?

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Old 01-25-2013, 03:14 PM   #4382
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I'm sure the new water cooled engine is nice. What peaks my interest is the longer swingarm, improved FD from the 1600, all new Japanese transmission and wet clutch.
I'm not seeing an FD from the K1600. the K1600 final drive has no open hole in the middle like the one on the GS.

The French video a few posts back says the transmission is smooth "like on a Japanese bike"...

Getrag no longer provides the tranny?
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:21 PM   #4383
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Getrag no longer provides the tranny?
I read elsewhere that Getrag is out of the motorcycle transmission business. The new boxes are apparently made in Japan. Equally interesting is that the clutch may be the same as one in a KTM (I think - hearsay disclaimer).
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:27 PM   #4384
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I read elsewhere that Getrag is out of the motorcycle transmission business. The new boxes are apparently made in Japan. Equally interesting is that the clutch may be the same as one in a KTM (I think - hearsay disclaimer).
As far as I know KTM uses Adler clutches ... http://www.adler.it/

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Old 01-25-2013, 03:40 PM   #4385
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I read elsewhere that Getrag is out of the motorcycle transmission business. The new boxes are apparently made in Japan. Equally interesting is that the clutch may be the same as one in a KTM (I think - hearsay disclaimer).
Not sure about KTM but it is the same clutch as is used in the S1000RR. And I heard the same thing about Japanese transmission...made by the same company that makes Honda transmissions.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:07 PM   #4386
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I read elsewhere that Getrag is out of the motorcycle transmission business. The new boxes are apparently made in Japan. .
that's good... Did they also get the driveshaft / final drive designed in Japan like Triumph did?
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:07 PM   #4387
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boys, any news when the Adventure version will be out ?
I think possibly one year after the GS intro?
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:09 PM   #4388
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I thought all the BMW boxer bikes used a diaphragm spring car style clutch, I would be sure the S1000rr uses a typical "motorcycle style clutch".
Start correcting me now.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:19 PM   #4389
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that's good... Did they also get the driveshaft / final drive designed in Japan like Triumph did?
What, you have on objection to transmissions designed on Pluto?
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:24 PM   #4390
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I thought all the BMW boxer bikes used a diaphragm spring car style clutch, I would be sure the S1000rr uses a typical "motorcycle style clutch".
Start correcting me now.
You're absolutely correct, but only for a few minutes longer. The March release of the WC-R-GS changes that.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:33 PM   #4391
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If you guys ae not going to call it a "WetHead", at least spell out "Water Cooled" insead of calling it a"WC". A WC is a water closet, or toilet room.

Besides, are not MOST bikes water cooled?

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Dammit Jim!
That's gonna leave a lasting mark...As an international indicator of a toilet room, I hope "WC" don't stick as a moniker for the new boxer.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:56 PM   #4392
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I thought all the BMW boxer bikes used a diaphragm spring car style clutch, I would be sure the S1000rr uses a typical "motorcycle style clutch".
Start correcting me now.
New water boxer uses a conventional moto style wet clutch. Previous boxers used a car style clutch.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:56 PM   #4393
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I went back several pages and can't find if the valve check intervals are further out than 6K on the new model. Anyone know? Thanks
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:24 PM   #4394
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The new WC GS MC must be better than the old one. Something would be wrong with the way I look at this world if that would be any different :-)
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:28 PM   #4395
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The bike is going to run, and very well at that......... It's going to be a fuckin ruckus bike.
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Yes, the new WC might be better looking and have more power, but will it have "good" power delivery, ride and handle "better" than the previous version......
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?...I think the bike looks better then the previous generation, (Obviously a subjective thought) offers more bang for the buck with cruise, adjustable screen, dynamic suspension etc.... and I predict it will be an excellent motorcycle that gets good reviews overall.
Exactly my thoughts too.. In my opinion the new GS is going to be a much better package, and yes, relative value is for the prospective owner to decide. It will make more power, the on-road feel should be much improved (impossible for it not to be given the new components), and then you have the LIST of items beyond what Motard points to (engine, frame, and trans re-design, chassis length, wheel dimensions, etc) which go to justify some of the difference in price. I really think that it's going to be a MUCH better on-road motorcycle which will create a much more enjoyable riding experience versus the GS of today. Worth the difference in price? I think so. Do I want to pay for that difference? I don't know yet myself.
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