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Old 02-01-2013, 11:35 AM   #4651
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You don't. You put it on the two stanchion tubes coming down from the handlebar Triple T.


Think those are called "the forks"
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:42 AM   #4652
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You don't. You put it on the two stanchion tubes coming down from the handlebar Triple T.
You mentioned earlier that they have been installed on a current R1200GS. Can you maybe show me a picture. I'm slow, so I need photos I guess.

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Old 02-01-2013, 11:50 AM   #4653
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Where did you hear that most GS' will get this tire? All the demo bikes at the rollout seemed to have Metzelers? I recall that BMW worked with four tire manufacturers on the new tire size/design...so my guess is they committed to buy from all four, but don't really know.
I just returned home from a guided tour at the bmw factory in Spandau Berlin, and all of the new GS's that were made this week were put together with the metzeler tires on them.
We saw a large number of continental tires as well. I asked one employee if they alreadyut on the michelins, but he just smiled and answered with a friendly 'no comment'

Next 2 weeks they'll be making a lot of GS's for the French market they told us.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:37 PM   #4654
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I believe that we're all asking or wondering the same thing, but who's to say that BMW is right? After all, aren't these the same people who designed the final drive (amongst other parts that have experienced failure) on the last few series of GS bikes?
They have to get it right this time. There's far more at stake Time will tell
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:52 PM   #4655
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LOL I hadn't thought of it like that.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:53 PM   #4656
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My point is that everyone is jumping on the fact that 2 journo's had a tankslapper on the new model, when people have had tankslappers on the old one. This is nothing new, and certainly isn't a manufacturing error. If you ride too fast off road, and hit a dip, or large stone at speed, you're going to have a problem. Regardless of the bike.
Couldn't have said it better. This wouldn't change my opinion to purchase the bike if I was planning to do so.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:12 PM   #4657
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Very good discussion. We are all guessing though.

I choose to believe that the ratio 2 to 20 (or 3 to 20) is not normal among experienced moto mag testers.

I WANT to believe that either nothing is wrong after all, or that it is a software thing.

I DEFINITELY want to believe that people from BMW have reached this thread somehow :) and/or have actually followed up with the jurnos that had the thing happen to figure what is wrong.

We'll see I guess. Actually I am a bit happy with not having the money to order first bunch.
I cannot stand a huge number of recalls. I had a fair share of recalls for a 2007 model (bought new) of a bike already 3 years in the market.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:21 PM   #4658
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This kind of stuff just strengthens my everlasting thoughts that the Telelever is a bad idea in a bike like the GS.
I've tried some GSs over the years, and the fork is one of the reasons why I feel my S10 better offroad.

Unfortunatelly I belive the Telelever is one of those german things made to make the GS "different", AKA design arrogance
The saying "each to their own" sure rings true. Telelever is one of the things I love the most about my GS. Maybe I notice the difference it makes much more is because the other bike I ride a lot is my R90S. It's a bike I have loved for the past 38years but it could sure do with Telelever.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:26 PM   #4659
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Gee, I guess I'm missing something. All I get from the reviews is the new GS is going to be a great road/touring bike (which is what I want) and that I'll have to restrain myself from riding standing up doing 45mph+ over washboard terrain. What's the problem? :

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Old 02-01-2013, 01:29 PM   #4660
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Gee, I guess I'm missing something. All I get from the reviews is the new GS is going to be a great road/touring bike (which is what I want) and that I'll have to restrain myself from riding standing up doing 45mph+ over washboard terrain. What's the problem? :

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Old 02-01-2013, 02:15 PM   #4661
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:26 PM   #4662
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The saying "each to their own" sure rings true. Telelever is one of the things I love the most about my GS. Maybe I notice the difference it makes much more is because the other bike I ride a lot is my R90S. It's a bike I have loved for the past 38years but it could sure do with Telelever.
Can't argue about that. I'm not saying that there are no good things about the Tele. It's sure makes the long travel front end behave a lot more like a short sportive fork on twisty roads, and that sure feels fun and sure footed.
I just find it inadequate for this kind of bike, both theoretically (I'm a mechanical engineer, I tend to over-analyse stuff) and when riding a GS with it (bad roads/offroad)
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:31 PM   #4663
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Gee, I guess I'm missing something. All I get from the reviews is the new GS is going to be a great road/touring bike (which is what I want) and that I'll have to restrain myself from riding standing up doing 45mph+ over washboard terrain. What's the problem? :

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Old 02-01-2013, 02:34 PM   #4664
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Can't argue about that. I'm not saying that there are no good things about the Tele. It's sure makes the long travel front end behave a lot more like a short sportive fork on twisty roads, and that sure feels fun and sure footed.
I just find it inadequate for this kind of bike, both theoretically (I'm a mechanical engineer, I tend to over-analyse stuff) and when riding a GS with it (bad roads/offroad)
I find that all interesting. I may be the exception here but with my 2010 I've never ever felt anything weird about the Telelever. Maybe once while accelerating like crazy the front wheel left the road and that was supposed to happen I guess. You guys here all seem to be road racers + serious off-road riders. Heck, I need to learn how to ride my GS properly!
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:02 PM   #4665
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I find that all interesting. I may be the exception here but with my 2010 I've never ever felt anything weird about the Telelever. Maybe once while accelerating like crazy the front wheel left the road and that was supposed to happen I guess. You guys here all seem to be road racers + serious off-road riders. Heck, I need to learn how to ride my GS properly!
I agree and add that a serious racer or serious off road rider would probably be happier with something other than the R1200GS. I had an 06 GS for seven years and it was the best all around motorcycle I've had (6). But I don't race and I don't do serious off road. If I did I would have bought an appropriate bike for those activities.

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