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Old 02-06-2013, 03:39 AM   #4951
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Head shake , now dip ...

You guys are not serious ...
Not really. Just passing the time/ This 24/7 news cycle is tough man.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:20 AM   #4952
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Is it too much to ask to read about the bike and not about opinions of the bike?
Well then you need to visit some moto review page (well there you still get the opinion of the reviewer, along with a copy of BMW data), BMW Motorrad page (erm... then you get the opinion of BMW about its own bike, along with the pure data).

A forum has "opinions" in its DNA. It is a "forum" geddit?

Not sure where you should go man, sorry.

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Old 02-06-2013, 05:54 AM   #4953
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you being a little disengenious.The S10 thread prolly discusses the gs almost as much as the s10
Isn't that sad? They come here often to do a little bashing, I assume to make themselves feel better about their choice of bikes!

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Old 02-06-2013, 05:57 AM   #4954
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I've ridden the R1200 a lot, well over 100K miles, and I am considered not particularly slow, though my off road skills are pretty weak. I've never really noticed the dip at 5K like some complain so strongly about. Might be because I live at 5K plus 95% of the time.

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Old 02-06-2013, 05:57 AM   #4955
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Isn't that sad? They come here often to do a little bashing, I assume to make themselves feel better about their choice of bikes!

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well the S10 boys have notorious soft bellies
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:15 AM   #4956
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This probably deserves its own thread (and actually it probably HAS its own thread somewhere), but what is happening with GS - vs - all-that-don't-have-GS is funny to frustrating.

It is unbelievable.
In my country the biggest motorcycle forum, has only the following GS users: Those that can stand DAILY bashing and jokes by the others (talking even about users that can buy up to a moped). Although I was one of the first users, I chose (years ago) to leave. I checked like 10 days ago (because of the new 12GS thing) and yes it was STILL the same. Even in the major GS forum in my country, you have to withstand the daily bashing (and their "know-it-all" attitude) of people that have Varaderos (for f*** shake, VARADERO! I would hide under a rock), DL650s, Super Tenere (i.e. S10) or even some stupid models like Honda Deauville (NT700V). Funny enough people that have KTMs are usually NOT bashing. If this says anything. Anyway all this in a... specific to GS forum (not even a generic BMW forum, let alone a generic moto forum).
After some arguments, I usually just go to the plain "excuse": OK we are stupid for getting a GS, thank you for letting us know, let us be.
...Yes I don't post there any more either.

(will someone post some NEW news about 2013 GS?)
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:19 AM   #4957
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you being a little disengenious.The S10 thread prolly discusses the gs almost as much as the s10
Unfortunately, when the GS gets discussed it's usually in the context of ex-owners talking about how unreliable theirs was and how much better they like the S10.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:21 AM   #4958
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Head shake , now dip ...

You guys are not serious ...

Here is my older post , just to clarify diping feature from german teutonic monks
Interesting. A little bit more power all over the range.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:26 AM   #4959
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Head shake , now dip ...

You guys are not serious ...

Here is my older post , just to clarify diping feature from german teutonic monks
Just noticed something in the graph of the new one (more obvious with the comparison chart you made). Why they cut so early? The old graph cuts to 8500 RPM (which is where the "red" is in 2012 GS) and the new at 8000, while the 2013 "red" is at 9000 RPM (or is it not?).
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:27 AM   #4960
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Unfortunately, when the GS gets discussed it's usually in the context of ex-owners talking about how unreliable theirs was and how much better they like the S10.
So... what happened to YOUR GS?
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:54 AM   #4961
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Unfortunately, when the GS gets discussed it's usually in the context of ex-owners talking about how unreliable theirs was and how much better they like the S10.
Must be true! Yamaha, and all other brands, especially Japanese brands, never break of have production issues! There is no need to complain about them as they are perfect out of the box, require zero maintenance, and have no odd quirks. Further, the aftermarket for them is flush with inexpensive accessories!

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Old 02-06-2013, 07:02 AM   #4962
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anybody going to the Almeria (spain) BMW testcamp ? they have the LC's setup both in Offroad and onroad.

http://www.bmw-motorrad-test-camp.de/
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:08 AM   #4963
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I'm very concerned that that LED headlight is a sideways horseshoe. How then can good luck not fall out? Not good. Not good at all.

All kidding aside. Why do GS riders immediately stand up when the road has only pebbles on it? I just rewatched On Any Sunday (for the 48th time - more or less) and Malcolm Smith remained seated unless there was a big obstacle in front of him. Was he wrong? Is the GS really that demanding?

Sorry. Bored and just passing time.
malcolm is correct, but standing has become more common over time as it's "cool" to do so.

for easy gravel I stay seated all the time & conserve my energy. standing all the time wears you out quicker...at least it does me. standing is to absorb heavy bumps. if it's smooth dirt then why bother? stay seated and you'll go through the corner much faster, like MX riders.

i think what you see is a habit of watching too many other people do it too. noobs see others stand and say that is cool looking, i want to stand (and thus do it on any dirt) and thus do it all the time.

true long-distance & seasoned ADV riders know they need to conserve energy and stay seat as much as possible. they stand to stretch their bodies and when going over rough terrain.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:19 AM   #4964
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It's like when you know when to stand and when to sit at the church.

I've noticed this too. Many people do it for the cool factor, nothing relevant to the bike model.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:26 AM   #4965
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Must be true! Yamaha, and all other brands, especially Japanese brands, never break of have production issues! There is no need to complain about them as they are perfect out of the box, require zero maintenance, and have no odd quirks. Further, the aftermarket for them is flush with inexpensive accessories!

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It is called character. And I can't find any japanese bike I don't find boring.
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