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Old 02-06-2013, 01:02 PM   #4981
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EJ, was that you parked at Chick Filet at Jamboree and Bryen 20G21.. Lic plate. Skipped last digits intentionally.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:15 PM   #4982
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EJ, was that you parked at Chick Filet at Jamboree and Bryen 20G21.. Lic plate. Skipped last digits intentionally.
Nope not me. Wish I was riding or eating Chick Filet right now
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:28 PM   #4983
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Does anybody have GSpot links to the 1150GS Debut Threadfest or the original 1200GS Debut Threadfest? I'd like to read through them and see if the commentary surrounding those debuts was as asinine as some of the action here is.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:28 PM   #4984
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Must be true! Yamaha, and all other brands, especially Japanese brands, never break of have production issues! There is no need to complain about them as they are perfect out of the box, require zero maintenance, and have no odd quirks. Further, the aftermarket for them is flush with inexpensive accessories!

See this: BMW Sucks

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But what can i say. This is true

But really, now BMW has blessed the R motor with some eighties engine technology it is looking better than before. Wonder why that suddenly happened?

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The GS looks to be awesome, again, which just makes everyone else have to try harder to also be awesome. We all win.
And that is the point. Hopefully they don't move too far away from the original GS's mission. I personally don't need a jacked up RRRace bike but if everyone else does then I suppose that is the way it goes. My loss. I'll be interested in how they position the GSA.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:39 PM   #4985
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Dude, you're going to get bundled
Man, I hate when that happens. I bet KTM won't "bundle" me.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:49 PM   #4986
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And that is the point. Hopefully they don't move too far away from the original GS's mission. I personally don't need a jacked up RRRace bike but if everyone else does then I suppose that is the way it goes. My loss. I'll be interested in how they position the GSA.
Yep, the S1000XR should tick that box for the speed demons They'll have to wait another year though
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:15 PM   #4987
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Yep, the S1000XR should tick that box for the speed demons They'll have to wait another year though
I thought you were joking!! Then I found rumours. Should throw some good roost
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:39 PM   #4988
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I hear ya there. I've been in the same boat, going through bike after bike trying to find "the one" that ticks all the boxes for me. Thought it was the Duc, but I kept riding it like a testosterone poisoned delinquent and figured I better sell it before something "bad" happened.
When the Multi came out in 2010 I rode one and had quite a few complaints, but the biggest one was the, compared to bikes I was used to, really nasty slow speed behavior of the engine.

This was before any fuel map updates came out and at a dealer where I have serious doubts that they ever set up the bike properly. I know that Ducati addressed every single one of my other concerns and it also seems that the 2013 model has better low rev behavior.

But, and that's my biggest problem, I have no way of riding a Multi long enough to figure out whether it'll really work for me. With my BMW shop I have a good relationship and they give me a bike for a weekend if I'm uncertain.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:46 PM   #4989
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Recall on new GS

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Old 02-06-2013, 02:54 PM   #4990
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Oh great. That's just what we needed to spoil the party
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:58 PM   #4991
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According to Transport Canada, transmission oil pressure on certain BMW R1200GS units may get too high, resulting in a leak in the output shaft sealing ring. An oil leak directly in front of the rear tire could result in a loss of traction and stability, potentially leading to a crash.
The 2013 BMW R1200GS is almost entirely new, including the transmission which is fully integrated into the engine casing, so there’s no worry about this issue affecting previous model years.
BMW dealers will install an oil restrictor to reduce the oil pressure at the transmission output. The Transport Canada recall affects 31 units of the 2013 BMW R1200GS.
We will have more information if and when NHTSA posts a similar recall for the U.S.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:07 PM   #4992
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Confused! Is this the US 2013 ie made in 2012 or the conventional 2013 as in the wc? This article defiantly seems to think it is the new bike but how can you recall something that hasn't been sold yet. Probably hasn't even landed on the shores. Surely it would get done on the PDI. Course it could be the demo bikes that we know are around. I can't think of an oil pump in the old gearbox either so I am leaning towards it actually being the new bike.

5 years of testing huh!
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:10 PM   #4993
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Did you guys check Shawn's thread about his own review from South Africa? VERY VERY detailed. Better than anything I've read and keeps out of his post all the journalist cr*p.

Here is the link if you missed it:
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=854607
Check pages 11 and 12 if you are in a hurry.

BTW the recall seems to be for the first one and possibly 31 bikes (!), possibly the first delivered on the planet. :)
I don't understand why people hate recalls. I like recalls, it means the company cares and fixes.

One of my 2007 recalls (as some of you might... erm... recall ) was just to add a sticker on the inside of the handle protectors. Not sure if any other manufacturer would do that.

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So that brings up a question....is the new GS going to be a 2014 model?
This happens only in the US of A. I wonder why you guys cannot use the date properly (you even write the month BEFORE the date, go figure)...
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:27 PM   #4994
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This happens only in the US of A. I wonder why you guys cannot use the date properly (you even write the month BEFORE the date, go figure)...
The model year classification system in the US is stupid, same with writing the month before the day .
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:31 PM   #4995
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While you have a point, for BMW to actually "look around" is not bad.
Indeed most people use GS for the Strasse part, the magic is to keep the Gelande part alive - and I think they do.

Wider rims are better compromise to get some better road handling than changing the diameter (and loosing off road abilities further).

As for the torque what are you talking about?
The torque is higher in all rev range.
Someone even complained about a dip mid-range, possibly forgetting that ALL 12GS have it (and there is a reason of course).
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The engine is a little less tractor-like in slow, off-road situations, and where the quick-revving new engine benefits with increased midrange or high rpm power, it is a little bit less friendly when lugging through a tricky section of dirt.
I hope to be proved wrong, really. But lower profile tires and and less lugging ability tell me I may have been correct in adding a fresh camhead to the garage while they are still available.
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