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Old 02-09-2013, 12:16 AM   #5131
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Yup. This price includes 18000$ of tax for buying a new vehicle. If I wanted to buy abroad then I would have to pay around 100% import tax. Either way the goverment will f.... you over ;)
Oh, and don't get me started on fuel prices of 10.3$ per US gallon. You muricans have it easy ;)
Hey, you can't have it both. Living the 'Better Life' in Norway and complaining about the '$45' take-out Pizza :-)
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:19 AM   #5132
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It would be interesting to know how salaries compare in these countries. Whats the average salary for say a teacher, doctor and office worker in the US, and Denmark?
In Denmark dunno. In Norway in 2010 average salary was around 6500$ / month. That's before taxes (around 35%)
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:33 AM   #5133
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Hey, you can't have it both. Living the 'Better Life' in Norway and complaining about the '$45' take-out Pizza :-)
I know;) But sometimes it's nice to just go like that:




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Old 02-09-2013, 12:37 AM   #5134
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Disclaimer: Speculation
on fuel economy.

Any comments on the below average fuel consumption figures?

GS hex 5,4 l/100km = 43 mpg (my own experience, but "old" model, 2005)
GS hex ADV 6,0 l/100km = 39 mpg
GS wet 5,2 l/100km = 45 mpg (= 4 % improvement. Has anyone heard an actual figure mentioned?)
GS wet ADV 5,6 l/100km = 42 mpg (hoping to get a greater improvement over the current model (7 %), just speculating that the design could be slimmer )

Hexhead GS fuel range 333 km (207 mi) (Calculation: 18 litres / 5,4 l/100km (with nominal 2 litres reserve when filling up))
Wethead fuel range 346 km (215 mi) (Calculation: 18 litres / 5,2 l/100km (with nominal 2 litres reserve when filling up))

Hexhead ADV fuel range 517 km (321 mi) (Calculation: 31 litres / 6,0 l/100km (with nominal 2 litres reserve when filling up))
Wethead ADV nominal tank size for the same range: 31 litres (Calculation: 517 km x 5,6 litres/100km plus 2 litres reserve)

Did I say it's all just speculation...
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:43 AM   #5135
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So I'm saying that the Wethead ADV could well come with a 30 litres fuel tank instead of 33 litres.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:46 AM   #5136
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Disclaimer: Speculation
on fuel economy.

Any comments on the below average fuel consumption figures?


GS hex ADV 6,0 l/100km = 39 mpg
GS wet 5,2 l/100km = 45 mpg (= 4 % improvement. Has anyone heard an actual figure mentioned?)


Did I say it's all just speculation...
BMW USA is claiming a 6% improvement in gas mileage in their launch materials provided to dealers.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:11 AM   #5137
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:18 AM   #5138
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I suppose I should really get back to the new WC GS. This was when I fell in love with it
(but I personally would go for a white one)
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:26 AM   #5139
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Yup. This price includes 18000$ of tax for buying a new vehicle. If I wanted to buy abroad then I would have to pay around 100% import tax. Either way the goverment will f.... you over ;)
Oh, and don't get me started on fuel prices of 10.3$ per US gallon. You muricans have it easy ;)
For cars and bike it is relatively good here. We get german prices, but have higher vat. Some annual taxes and inscription fees. We are however screwed big time on income tax wwhich goes up to 53% in my case. Fuel prices aren't that far away from yours.
But I shouldn't complain since i can afford a new gs next to my car.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:16 AM   #5140
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Just looked it up. Got a 3% discount on the stickerprice and 2 years additional Guarantee thrown In the deal. But didn't need to negotiate that. Getting more out of It seemed Impossible.

Angood deal is a deal where both parties are happy.
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:18 AM   #5141
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It exists because it is a convenient way to group together bikes of a common spec so that when I say I have a 2010 R1200GS, people know what the bike is. It would be pretty chaotic otherwise. Mfgs do occasionally make mid-model-year running production changes, but they are rare. Mfgs also like to group changes together by model year to avoid confusion.

If you want a mfg that makes random changes to their bike's spec willy-nilly without respect to model years, then KTM is your brand. And it makes dealing with the brand for sales, service, and support much more difficult.

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Really?
So my 12GS, built mid-2007, is what year model and what SPECS you expect it to have?
(because I really doubt you'll find it)
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:48 AM   #5142
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Standard Package: $16,600*
  • Base MSRP $15,800*
  • Heated Grips +$250
  • Cruise Control +$350
  • Saddle Bag Mounts(vario) +$200
Premium Package: $17,990*
  • Base MSRP $15,800*
  • Touring Package +$1,450
    • Dynamic ESA
    • On Board Computer Pro
    • GPS Preparation
    • Chrome Exhaust
    • Heated Grips
    • Hand Protection
    • Saddle Bag Mounts (vario)
  • Active Package +$740
    • Enduro ASC and Riding Modes
    • Cruise Control
Premium Plus Package: $18,870*
  • Base MSRP $15,800*
  • Comfort Package +$620
    • Heated Grips
    • TPM (Tire Pressure Monitor)
    • Hand Protection
    • Saddle Bag Mounts (vario)
  • Dynamic Package +$2,100
    • Enduro ASC and Riding Modes
    • Dynamic ESA
    • LED Headlight
    • On Board Computer Pro
    • GP Preparation
  • Cruise Control +$350
STANDARD EQUIPMENT
  • Integral ABS (disengageable)
  • On Board Computer NEW
  • Height Adjustable Rider Seat, Front and Back NEW
  • Longitudinally Adjustable Passenger Seat NEW
  • Stepless Adjustable Windshield NEW
  • Pillion Rider Foot Rests Removable for Off Road Riding NEW
  • Aluminum Engine Guard
  • Center Stand
  • Power Accessory Socket
  • White Turn Signal Lenses
  • LED Rear Light
COLORS
  • Thunder Grey Metallic
  • Fire Blue
  • Racing Red
  • Alpine White
SPECIAL PACKAGES
  • Comfort Package: $620 (cannot be combined with 'Touring Package')
    • Heated Grips
    • TPM (Tire Pressure Monitor)
    • Hand Protection
    • Saddle Bag Mounts (vario)
  • Touring Package: $1,450 (cannot be combined with 'Comfort Package' or 'Dynamic Package')
    • Dynamic ESA
    • On Board Computer Pro
    • GPS Preparation
    • Chrome Exhaust
    • Heated Grips
    • Hand Protection
    • Saddle Bag Mounts
  • Active Package: $740 (cannot be combined with 'Dynamic Package')
    • Enduro ASC and Riding Modes
    • Cruise Control
  • Dynamic Package: $2,100 (cannot be comdine with 'Touring Package' or 'Active Package')
    • Enduro ASC and Riding modes
    • Dynamic ESA
    • LED Headlight
    • On Board Computer Pro
    • GPS Preparation
OPTIONS

Code Description Price
190 Enduro ASC and Riding Modes (only w/ 191 or packages) NEW$450
191 Dynamic ESA (only w/ 190) NEW$950
192 LED Headlight (only w/ 'Dynamic Package') NEWPackage
221 On Board Computer Pro (only w/ 'Touring' or 'Dynamic Package' NEWPackage
272 GPS Preparation (only w/ 'Touring' or 'Dynamic Package') NEWPackage
350 Chrome Exhaust $150
499 Low Suspension, 31.1/31.9 inch seat height (only w/ 191; includes 776) $250
519 Heated Hand Grips $250
530 TPM (Tire Pressure Monitor) $250
538 Cruise Control NEW$350
589 Hand Protection $100
603 Anti Theft Alarm $395
681 Saddle Bag Mounts $200
771 Cross Spoke Wheels $500
776 Low Seat, 32.1/33.1 inch seat height w/ standard suspension $0



I hope these prices are accurate.

Now the hard part, for me anyway...do I buy a 2013 Multistrada S Touring and get it now, or the new GS W/C and have to wait?

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Old 02-09-2013, 11:39 AM   #5143
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I just wonder if you can get them in black like the Adventure wheels. I bought the adv wheels for my 2009GS and then sold the original plain aluminum color set. It would be nice to not have to do that again to get the wheels I want...
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:42 AM   #5144
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I just wonder if you can get them in black like the Adventure wheels. I bought the adv wheels for my 2009GS and then sold the original plain aluminum color set. It would be nice to not have to do that again to get the wheels I want...
I haven't seen any black spoke rims for the 2013, that could possibly a feature of the ADV-LC next year?
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:53 AM   #5145
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So my 12GS, built mid-2007, is what year model and what SPECS you expect it to have?
The production date isn't what's important. The MY in on the paperwork and this determines the spec.

The point here is that the mfgs need some system to group together bikes of common spec. I suppose the bike mfgs could do like software and we would be talking about whether you have a R1200GS V7.24 or something, but since the mfgs make changes on more/less an annual basis, MY is a convenient system of grouping and has the added benefit of giving a rough idea of how old the bike is when say you have a 2007 MY R1200GS. Do you have a better one? I don't think having mfgs just make running changes to spec whenever they please is a good one.

Honda was one of the last bastions of not using MY's back in the 1970's. Before about 1974, their bikes typically has a K designation after the model, so you'd have a CB750K0, K1, etc. To this day, this is a huge source of confusion because someone will say they have a 1972 CB750, but the year could be the production date, the date it was sold, the date it was titled, etc. Honda went with the MY convention because it is more/less universally used in the vehicle world. It isn't perfect and mfgs occasionally make running mid-MY changes (e.g., the KTM 2005.5 950s) but overall it is a good system and works pretty well.

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