The All New 2013 LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

[Moronic]

Originally Posted by NLS

Interesting.

- Since there was a long talk here about the front-end, he finds it WAY better than the "old" one, since the "old" one lacked feedback (ok true, but you learn to trust it) and the new one HAS feedback. Hm.

- I think he says the the top speed is still the same (or close). Which doesn't fit well with what others mentioned (closer to 240 - but below IIRC). We'll see I guess. Personally I WOULD like a longer 6th both to maintain a more relaxed but fast mean speed and to achieve faster speed when there is space (240+). Pity.

That is interesting indeed about the claim there is much more feedback from the front. Thanks.

Many pages back I said that from the video the bike looked better to me in the turns, and then asked to explain that I admitted I didn't have much to point to - it was more of an intuition. But I think when you look at some videos posted since - and certainly at the cornering shots in that one - you can see pretty clearly that the rider has great confidence in the front end.

On the gearing thing, when I looked at the ratios quoted in the PDF released with Intermot, it appeared the new bike was geared five per cent taller (i.e. longer) in top than its predecessor.

[dmac57]

Originally Posted by tallguy-09

I Guess So

Was I the only other one who figured that out?

[spraypilot]

1200GS gonna be at the dealership ready to roll out the door in thr SE USA?

[Hubbman]

Just got this in my in-box...like most of you!

http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/...html&notrack=1

EDIT! sorry about the link, I thought it included the pricing. Heres the direct quote from the news letter I received:

"If you're eager to get yourself one of the newest BMWs, pricing has just been announced: the R 1200 GS comes well-equipped at an MSRP of $17,990. Tax, title and all other local charges are additional"

Looks like the new starting price is 18K. Any thoughts on how this will impact sales, if at all?

[Bazgab]

Am I missing something, the link just takes me to the R1200GS page on the BMW website? Someone mentioned that BMW of San Francisco posted prices a few days ago and the only package that was over $18k was the Premium Plus, base MSRP was $15,800 with the standard package comes in at $16,600.

[navpreet318]

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden;

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Jim

Ah Mr. JVB.

Here is what I meant. Apologies if I couldn't explain better before.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=862561

It would be very interesting to know your take on this. This is a sizable investment.

You see not all new members at ADVrider are inexperienced. True that I have just bought the 1200GS but at the same time I have ridden on far more technical offroads which are sadly the norm in India on far far worse machines in which the riding skills are employed more than the forgiving bikes of today. Please don't just diss off new members as inexperienced riders. You are a Guru of all things GS and I respect that. I have learnt a lot from you and will continue to do so. Thank You.

[EJ_92606]

Originally Posted by khale

'well-equipped' Sounds to me like that's the comfort, touring or another package, not just base.

Check back a few pages, pricing and options have all been posted.

[Bazgab]

Originally Posted by Hubbman

"If you're eager to get yourself one of the newest BMWs, pricing has just been announced: the R 1200 GS comes well-equipped at an MSRP of $17,990. Tax, title and all other local charges are additional"

Looks like the new starting price is 18K. Any thoughts on how this will impact sales, if at all?

Like EJ_92606, it was posted a few pages back. The price quoted there is for the Premium package.

[JimVonBaden]

Originally Posted by navpreet318

Ah Mr. JVB.

Here is what I meant. Apologies if I couldn't explain better before.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=862561

It would be very interesting to know your take on this. This is a sizable investment.

You see not all new members at ADVrider are inexperienced. True that I have just bought the 1200GS but at the same time I have ridden on far more technical offroads which are sadly the norm in India on far far worse machines in which the riding skills are employed more than the forgiving bikes of today. Please don't just diss off new members as inexperienced riders. You are a Guru of all things GS and I respect that. I have learnt a lot from you and will continue to do so. Thank You.

I wasn't dissing you, I just couldn't understand what you were talking about.

As for a new lower tripple tree, well, it does raise the fender a bit, for $800. This is a very new product, hardly a common swap.

Jim

[Tonopah]

Rcv'd this today from a dealership in AZ:

Model 13RW R12GSW USD 15,800.00
Color NA5 Racing Red 0.00
Upholstery N/C
Options 231 Comfort Package 620.00
519 Heated Grips N/C
530 TPM N/C
589 Hand Protection N/C
681 Saddle Bag Mounts N/C
238 Dynamic Package 2,100.00
190 Enduro ASC & Riding Mode N/C
191 Dynamic ESA N/C
192 LED Headlight N/C
221 On Board Computer PRO N/C
272 GPS Prep. N/C
538 Cruise Control 350.00
Net Total 18,870.00
DEST 495.00
Total Suggested Price 19,365.00

[slipknot]

http://www.gaskrank.tv/tv/hersteller...ation-2013.htm

[PatrickM]

Just saw two of them at San Jose BMW...

Black and the Rallye color

Couldn't get that close of a look as they were really tightly packed in there (black by the couch and Rallye by the blue F800GS)

[tallguy-09]

Originally Posted by Rauven

Something new :) In german, but there is a moment in slomo. I think I came a little

That guy loves the new GS. "Better in all aspects" "The Germans engineer their motorcycles just like they play soccer", "merciless perfection", wow. Metzeler tires are fantastic. It's a very positive review!

[Montauk]

Originally Posted by tallguy-09

That guy loves the new GS. "Better in all aspects" "The Germans engineer their motorcycles just like they play soccer", "merciless perfection", wow. Metzeler tires are fantastic. It's a very positive review!

Noticed he had a GoPro mount on the beak. Nice spot, however, I saw a shadow on the road of his GoPro mounted on top of the helmet when he was riding. Maybe he had multiple GoPros.

[EJ_92606]

Originally Posted by PatrickM

Just saw two of them at San Jose BMW...

Black and the Rallye color

Couldn't get that close of a look as they were really tightly packed in there (black by the couch and Rallye by the blue F800GS)

You must mean the gray color? What is Rallye color? Red? So are these bikes for sale or perhaps they are for the BMW one world event?