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Old 02-21-2013, 03:31 PM   #5506
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33 seems to be the magic number for Canada.
I wonder if this software update is addressing the tank-slapping issue reported by a couple of the journo's down in SA?
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:37 PM   #5507
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I wonder if this software update is addressing the tank-slapping issue reported by a couple of the journo's down in SA?
Uh oh...prepare for a beatdown from the fan boi faithful for even mentioning that!

Good question though. My guess is it's probably unrelated.
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:50 PM   #5508
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Uh oh...prepare for a beatdown from the fan boi faithful for even mentioning that!

Good question though. My guess is it's probably unrelated.

I've been following along and well aware.

The new system on the LC is fairly sophisticated and coming from a sport bike, so I would expect this to be the first of a few software updates.
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:30 PM   #5509
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Uh oh...prepare for a beatdown from the fan boi faithful for even mentioning that!
I thought I heard something. Anybody else?
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:43 PM   #5510
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Actually BMW sales increase by 2% in 2012 compared to 2011 sales. December 2012 saw a 43.3% increase in deliveries compared to December 2011, pretty impressive. The R1200GS was the most popular model still (this does not include the GSA). Granted these are world-wide figures, but the USA was the 2nd largest market outside of Germany.
That increase in December '12 deliveries may be due to a variety of factors and perhaps helped to increase their sales figures for the year, all in one month.

EJ, I'm hoping that you (#2) and the person holding the #2 spot both buy the first delivered bikes (I don't want a "Low") so to help make my decision easier
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:50 PM   #5511
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That increase in December '12 deliveries may be due to a variety of factors and perhaps helped to increase their sales figures for the year, all in one month.

EJ, I'm hoping that you (#2) and the person holding the #2 spot both buy the first delivered bikes (I don't want a "Low") so to help make my decision easier
Well, you're #3 right? and there are four bikes with one being a low, so you're in! A friend stopped by an AZ dealer today and he said they wouldn't see the bikes until mid to late April....so perhaps the bikes are being held in NJ to have the oil restrictors installed and the software updated?

RE: December sales....those may be BMW Corporate sales and not dealer sales as well. Not sure which model bike they shipped so many of in December...certainly wasn't the old or the new GS and with the GS being their biggest seller I'm confused....
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:31 PM   #5512
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The current issue of BMW Motorcycle Magazine has an article on the internals of the new boxer. One of the images is a close up of the "Hybrid Cam Drive" and mentions Cams with automatic decompression for cold starting. Anyone know anything about that?
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:12 PM   #5513
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Well, you're #3 right? and there are four bikes with one being a low, so you're in! A friend stopped by an AZ dealer today and he said they wouldn't see the bikes until mid to late April....so perhaps the bikes are being held in NJ to have the oil restrictors installed and the software updated?
Meant to type #1 and #2......i think one of the four is going to be a demo?, another a "low" so that leaves two remaining for sale. If one isn't a demo then yes, I would have a shot at one.

In truth? I'm ok waiting until next year.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:14 PM   #5514
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The current issue of BMW Motorcycle Magazine has an article on the internals of the new boxer. One of the images is a close up of the "Hybrid Cam Drive" and mentions Cams with automatic decompression for cold starting. Anyone know anything about that?
I haven't read the article yet, but there are some cool pics of the internals. Look how light the shift cam looks on the opposite page
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:16 PM   #5515
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! A friend stopped by an AZ dealer today and he said they wouldn't see the bikes until mid to late April...

Uhhhhhgggg. I'm all for the "fix it first" idea (if that's what is occurring) but come on. The longer it takes the more apt I am to re-claim my deposit and impulse buy a discounted rallye or ......

Ok, unlikely. But still, this will change my spring break plans in S. Utah.

To me, and I'm NOT in the motorcycle distribution business, it seems that getting the bikes delivered to the dealerships that could benefit the most from a) having a model on the floor, and b) fixing a relatively straight forward restrictor/ or bi) applying a software update would be more efficient. Unless there's a training or liability issue that dealerships can't or don't want to deal with.

Someone tell me that the late April ETA is wrong...just wrong.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:57 PM   #5516
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! A friend stopped by an AZ dealer today and he said they wouldn't see the bikes until mid to late April...

Uhhhhhgggg. I'm all for the "fix it first" idea (if that's what is occurring) but come on. The longer it takes the more apt I am to re-claim my deposit and impulse buy a discounted rallye or ......
When I was at my dealership a week ago and both the general manager and sales manager gave me the window of early March to early April. They thought it would be earlier rather than later. Nothing definite though, don't know if that is any help.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:09 PM   #5517
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Meant to type #1 and #2......i think one of the four is going to be a demo?, another a "low" so that leaves two remaining for sale. If one isn't a demo then yes, I would have a shot at one.

In truth? I'm ok waiting until next year.
I heard they are going to make the low suspension bike their demo...so no excuses!
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:28 PM   #5518
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When I was at my dealership a week ago and both the general manager and sales manager gave me the window of early March to early April. They thought it would be earlier rather than later. Nothing definite though, don't know if that is any help.
Thanks, and yes, any information is helpful. Originally my dealer said mid March. A few weeks later the GM was very optimistic that they'd have delivery late february. Now it seems that optimism has turned to "who knows...we'll see".

Oh well, I'd be a fool to complain right- just wish I knew either what (trim/color/options) or when (date).
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:26 PM   #5519
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[QUOTE=GS Addict;20779150]Don't know if this has been posted before but
http://blog.motorcycle.com/2013/02/2...ampaign=weekly

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There you go, only in Canada with no own motorcycle industry you see all these "recalls" of models not even at the dealers, why don't they call it a "service bulletin" "TSB's" or so?
I'm sure the next recall will be for the lack of fuel.
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:50 AM   #5520
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$100 refundable? not exactly. With sales of the old GS declining substantially this year as everyone waits for the new, I would guess that the last few months have been pretty poor for most of them.
Deposits here are a bit higher. 500 Euro's.

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Actually BMW sales increase by 2% in 2012 compared to 2011 sales. December 2012 saw a 43.3% increase in deliveries compared to December 2011, pretty impressive. The R1200GS was the most popular model still (this does not include the GSA). Granted these are world-wide figures, but the USA was the 2nd largest market outside of Germany.
So all and all BMW sales are rather poor in the USA. A country with 280 million people buys less bmw's than one with 60 million people. I usually prefer the relative sales numbers.
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