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Old 02-22-2013, 06:13 AM   #5536
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I can't. The GSA is to big (high) for me.

I saw a pic of a GSA with a low seat. It must be quite the same the GS.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:24 AM   #5537
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I saw a pic of a GSA with a low seat. It must be quite the same the GS.
Suspension is 2 cm higher than a regular GS. And I got a GS on order with low seat and low suspension (and no, I can't put my feet flat on the ground). 1m67 isn't that good for a biker.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:35 AM   #5538
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Suspension is 2 cm higher than a regular GS. And I got a GS on order with low seat and low suspension (and no, I can't put my feet flat on the ground). 1m67 isn't that good for a biker.

With all the potholes in the roads, the 2 cm are a must
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:51 AM   #5539
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Who's your dealer?
Ludwig Motors, a nice and trusty guy in my opinion.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:58 AM   #5540
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With all the potholes in the roads, the 2 cm are a must
I am probably at least 20 kg lighter than you, so that does compensate.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:08 AM   #5541
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With all the potholes in the roads, the 2 cm are a must
First of all current GSA had indeed 2cm longer suspension, but this is quite necessary to compensate for the higher load.

Second... you seem to miss that we don't know when next GSA is coming and HOW will next GSA look (and what kind of differences it will have).

2013 GS design is quite different than previous GS. It manages to have about a cm more clearance but at the same time gain about 2 cm for the rider.
So let's not assume anything.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:23 AM   #5542
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First of all current GSA had indeed 2cm longer suspension, but this is quite necessary to compensate for the higher load.

Second... you seem to miss that we don't know when next GSA is coming and HOW will next GSA look (and what kind of differences it will have).

2013 GS design is quite different than previous GS. It manages to have about a cm more clearance but at the same time gain about 2 cm for the rider.
So let's not assume anything.
Wise man there.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:29 AM   #5543
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So all and all BMW sales are rather poor in the USA. A country with 280 million people buys less bmw's than one with 60 million people. I usually prefer the relative sales numbers.
If you are going to do that, then you would have to also take into account percentage of the population that actually rides. Given that the USA has a smaller percentage of riders than the other large sales markets quoted in the statistics I gave (European countries), I wouldn't go on to say BMW sales are poor. Compared to Harley Davidson, yes BMW sales are low, but compared to other imported European motorcycle brands they have quite impressive sales numbers.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:41 PM   #5544
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Slow news, everybody is waiting...

I am always waiting for a good guy that will scan any paper mag review on the new GS. :)

In the meantime, Touratech released two small videos about their trip to Madagaskar (with 2013 GS obviously)...

http://www.youtube.com/user/TouratechVideo
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:57 PM   #5545
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2 weeks out...

Got an unsolicited call from my dealer today; all good news.

The GM reported that the bikes destined for his dealership are on US soil AND he just today got a chance to put dibs on both number of bikes (based on predetermined numbers and deposits) to be received AND in which trims. He had to call BMW back immedietely to confirm he (I) wanted a white, spoked wheel, fully loaded WC GS. BTW- he said there was only one available with all of these attributes but I have no idea if that was for Colorado, Denver, Intermountain, etc. I didn't ask since well, all's I want is 1!
He told me to expect it to be here (aka: expect to pay for it) in 2 weeks. I just put a circle on the calendar around March 8

Not sure if this means anything for our other western states but there you go. If you were hoping for a specific color/trim it might be worth checking with with your dealership.

Also, and I'm pretty sure this is old news, he doesn't expect any of the BMW aluminum panniers to be available for the WC model until the GSA is released. So if you want aluminum/top loaders look elsewhere. (touratech=approx. a month for the new rack per touratech).

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Old 02-22-2013, 03:16 PM   #5546
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Got an unsolicited call from my dealer today; all good news.

The GM reported that the bikes destined for his dealership are on US soil AND he just today got a chance to put dibs on both number of bikes (based on predetermined numbers and deposits) to be received AND in which trims. He had to call BMW back immedietely to confirm he (I) wanted a white, spoked wheel, fully loaded WC GS. BTW- he said there was only one available with all of these attributes but I have no idea if that was for Colorado, Denver, Intermountain, etc. I didn't ask since well, all's I want is 1!
He told me to expect it to be here (aka: expect to pay for it) in 2 weeks. I just put a circle on the calendar around March 8

Not sure if this means anything for our other western states but there you go. If you were hoping for a specific color/trim it might be worth checking with with your dealership.

Also, and I'm pretty sure this is old news, he doesn't expect any of the BMW aluminum panniers to be available for the WC model until the GSA is released. So if you want aluminum/top loaders look elsewhere. (touratech=approx. a month for the new rack per touratech).

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Old 02-22-2013, 05:06 PM   #5547
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https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/press...tem=node__2261

Hi res pictures here and also a pdf download which discusses the decompression amongst other things paul
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"The timing chain drives an intermediate shaft between the intake and exhaust camshaft and it is from here that power is transmitted to the camshafts via spur gear pairs. At each exhaust camshaft there is an centrifugal-force-driven decompression facility which facilitates the start-up process. This makes it possible to save weight in the starter motor and battery."
Guess I missed that on an earlier reading. Centrifugal. Interesting.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:48 AM   #5548
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"The timing chain drives an intermediate shaft between the intake and exhaust camshaft and it is from here that power is transmitted to the camshafts via spur gear pairs. At each exhaust camshaft there is an centrifugal-force-driven decompression facility which facilitates the start-up process. This makes it possible to save weight in the starter motor and battery."
Guess I missed that on an earlier reading. Centrifugal. Interesting.
I was never very happy with the load on the battery on cold winter starts. This should help enormously! Listening to the new GS starting up on all the videos we have seen, it does seem to spin up more easily

What amused me when I saw it, was all the instructor bikes on the UK Off Road Skills course had jump leads stuck on the bike. Obviously the student bikes could not take the constant starts after stalling etc and needed jump starting
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:32 PM   #5549
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Got to see the bike today at the last day of the Progressive IMS in Charlotte. Was really impressed with it, doesn't feel as bulky as the out-going model. Only got to sit on it for a few seconds though, it seemed to be one of the more crowded bikes at the show. I don't know if it is true but one of the reps told me bikes would be in dealers by next week but that none of them would be premium plus models so i will have to wait longer. At least i got a 30% off accessories/apperal coupon to save a little money.
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:37 PM   #5550
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Got to see the bike today at the last day of the Progressive IMS in Charlotte. Was really impressed with it, doesn't feel as bulky as the out-going model. Only got to sit on it for a few seconds though, it seemed to be one of the more crowded bikes at the show. I don't know if it is true but one of the reps told me bikes would be in dealers by next week but that none of them would be premium plus models so i will have to wait longer. At least i got a 30% off accessories/apperal coupon to save a little money.
I heard same thing from my dealer...March 1 arrival, no premium plus = no LED, no TPM and none of the three they are getting have spoked wheels. I think my previous speculation about the DOT delayed approval was correct in that the first batch they produced for the U.S. were spec'd as halogen headlights in case the DOT approval did not come through.
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