The All New 2013 LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

[twinrider]

Originally Posted by EJ_92606

Agree, but not many others here are or will even tolerate discussion about it.

Two recalls before release is a "good thing," a mega tank slapper at 75 mph is just "speculation" and related theories about the death of Kevin Ash are "ridiculous" despite BMW's continued silence over the cause of the accident a month later. What's in that koolaid anyhow?

[tallguy-09]

Originally Posted by oz97tj

There isnt anything further to discuss about it. Until there are more ride reports its just speculation. Combined with some ridiculous theories about how it caused the death of a respected journo. Its dumb really. Lets wait till more people get their hands on the bike and see how it actually goes. If the possible issue is making you not want the bike then just wait till you demo one and see for yourself. Until then, givr it a rest already.

I totally agree.
Let's say you're a guy without Interweb access wouldn't you think that BMW still cares about your safety?
I 'd assume so and we all know what would happen if a known safety issue is ignored, that could very well mean catastrophic legal consequences, that's why safety always comes first.
It's actually a wonder motorcycles can still be sold, now think of gasoline, that can kill you, again a wonder we're using it (in a legal sense). If you were to "discover" the internal combustion engine today,
would never get approved

[Rauven]

A little video update.
Yesterday Eric posted 5 short videos from One world one GS in South Africa on his channel:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtQr...6MADDtQ/videos

[RichBMW]

Originally Posted by Rauven

A little video update.
Yesterday Eric posted 5 short videos from One world one GS in South Africa on his channel:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtQr...6MADDtQ/videos

The new guy seems a bit more chilled out than the guy that went to NZ

[NLS]

Originally Posted by twinrider

Two recalls before release is a "good thing," a mega tank slapper at 75 mph is just "speculation" and related theories about the death of Kevin Ash are "ridiculous" despite BMW's continued silence over the cause of the accident a month later. What's in that koolaid anyhow?

You do know you don't HAVE to buy it, right?

[NLS]

http://www.motociclismo.it/richiamo-...ata-moto-54193

Well this guy seems to know about the tank slapping that occurred to 1-2 of his journo colleagues (without mentioning it).
He just seems too eager to point out that he didn't see ANY problem off-road.

[RichBMW]

Originally Posted by NLS

You do know you don't HAVE to buy it, right?

Exactly. That won't stop them all whinging though

[IB1]

Originally Posted by RichBMW

Exactly. That won't stop them all whinging though

I probably have a reason to whine... Most likely delivery of mine will be postphoned a week due to national launch weekend of the model.

[Emoto]

In light of concerns about tank slappers, I propose a new nickname for this bike:

THE DEADLY SPORK

[kencc]

Originally Posted by oz97tj

there isnt anything further to discuss about it. Until there are more ride reports its just speculation. Combined with some ridiculous theories about how it caused the death of a respected journo. Its dumb really. Lets wait till more people get their hands on the bike and see how it actually goes. If the possible issue is making you not want the bike then just wait till you demo one and see for yourself. Until then, givr it a rest already.

+++1

[NLS]

Some indirect news.

You guys may have seen the new beast already, but I haven't managed yet.
I DID see Metzeler Tourance Next and Michelin Anakee 3 though.

By just looking at them I seem to like Next best.

Now the interesting part is this... the guy that has the wheel shop told me that Next are indeed "hot" tires (and verified that my TR-91 are also great - wonder if they'll make them for new GS dimensions), but... Anakee 3 are NOT. They already had bad reports for them (he specifically pointed that a guy that got them for FREE didn't like them either). Now this can be a hint for many things I can think of... ahem...

(note that this is the tire most GSs will have from the factory)

[El Gato]

Originally Posted by NLS

Some indirect news.

You guys may have seen the new beast already, but I haven't managed yet.
I DID see Metzeler Tourance Next and Michelin Anakee 3 though.

By just looking at them I seem to like Next best.

Now the interesting part is this... the guy that has the wheel shop told me that Next are indeed "hot" tires (and verified that my TR-91 are also great - wonder if they'll make them for new GS dimensions), but... Anakee 3 are NOT. They already had bad reports for them (he specifically pointed that a guy that got them for FREE didn't like them either). Now this can be a hint for many things I can think of... ahem...

(note that this is the tire most GSs will have from the factory)

I went over to my local dealer over the weekend, and they've had the Anakee 3 in for a few weeks now. They said they've mounted up several sets so far, including one local guy who's got over 1,600 miles on the set already. He's apparently raving about how good they are compared to the Anakee 2's.

[NLS]

Originally Posted by El Gato

I went over to my local dealer over the weekend, and they've had the Anakee 3 in for a few weeks now. They said they've mounted up several sets so far, including one local guy who's got over 1,600 miles on the set already. He's apparently raving about how good they are compared to the Anakee 2's.

Thanks.
Who knows then.

Just to point out the guy that has the tire/brake shop is not just *a* shop, but he is quite well known for his expertise, supplies local racing teams etc.

Let me just point out that tires are a MAJOR variable in case of tank slapping.
(that said, I don't know what tires they had when it happened to them, or what tires Kevin used etc.)

[IB1]

Originally Posted by NLS

Thanks.
Who knows then.

Just to point out the guy that has the tire/brake shop is not just *a* shop, but he is quite well known for his expertise, supplies local racing teams etc.

Let me just point out that tires are a MAJOR variable in case of tank slapping.
(that said, I don't know what tires they had when it happened to them, or what tires Kevin used etc.)

This can explain a lot. Advice from racing people is unually not relevant to me, since my driving style and demands for the tire are quite different. For me a tire must be great in the wet on asphalt and have some limited offroad abilities. I've been using michelin tires for a while and am very pleased with them, so after the OEM set (normally the Metzlers) I will try the Michelins.
Tires and the likings are really subjective, but since they are made in/for a wet country that ain't to hot they should do great here with a more relaxed driving style.
This is however not yet based upon my actual experience. Still waiting for my bike.

[NLS]

I still suggest TR91.
I am sure they'll make them for new GS too.