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Old 03-13-2013, 09:46 PM   #6496
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You are mixing two points.
No I'm not. I'm replying to two different points he made.

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He's not trying to screw BMW, even if we all go and drink chai latte at the dealer, that still doesn't solve the problem.
I don't even have an idea what the problem is. Apparently it has something to do with feeling slighted out of $10 worth of tools, though for the life of me I still can't figure out why this would register as an "issue" to any normal person.
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:25 PM   #6497
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Yeah we get these ugly things:

I think those are the standard (non U.S.) turn signals. With the optional (non U.S.) turn signals being the LEDs.

This picture below I believe has the U.S. turn signals....vastly uglier I'm afraid to say , but in compliance with silly DOT rules. The good news is that your dealer will sell the optional LED euro turn signals and perhaps a shorter euro stalk for the standard turn signals if you want to make the change. You'll also note in this picture, the corner of the amber fork reflector (US DOT requirement). However, since this picture has been taken, the DOT has declined approval for the LED DRL on the halogen headlights, so in place of that there will be a plastic piece. The Horshoe LED DRL that comes with the LED headlights has been approved.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news...1200gs-photos/

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Old 03-13-2013, 11:10 PM   #6498
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It is a big deal, if you ask me. Besides, if the manufacturer provides toolkit, they don't just hand you a bag, they provide cover/space for it also. This avoids you having to put tools in your panniers and taking up valuable space. You can choose on your own if you wish to take more.
Excellent point. That's one of my few gripes about my camhead GS.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:17 PM   #6499
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my bike status went from #112 to #150

they're putting my bike together
checked the Berlin-area-soccer-teams for any important games that might be played, but none of this, so the guys who put the bikes together won't be (too) drunk this week
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:59 PM   #6500
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I think those are the standard (non U.S.) turn signals. With the optional (non U.S.) turn signals being the LEDs.

This picture below I believe has the U.S. turn signals....vastly uglier I'm afraid to say , but in compliance with silly DOT rules. The good news is that your dealer will sell the optional LED euro turn signals and perhaps a shorter euro stalk for the standard turn signals if you want to make the change. You'll also note in this picture, the corner of the amber fork reflector (US DOT requirement). However, since this picture has been taken, the DOT has declined approval for the LED DRL on the halogen headlights, so in place of that there will be a plastic piece. The Horshoe LED DRL that comes with the LED headlights has been approved.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news...1200gs-photos/
I think those are the US (Dot) signals, not good.
Not sure about the nice small and short EU signals, currently US dealers are not selling those (I can be wrong).

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Old 03-14-2013, 12:18 AM   #6501
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Bitchin'

Good grief I think there should be an age limit and a bitch filter on these threads. Or some of the posters should get a real life.
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:27 AM   #6502
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Five year old kids in the sand box behave better
Not if there's a GS in there...

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Old 03-14-2013, 01:13 AM   #6503
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my bike status went from #112 to #150

they're putting my bike together
checked the Berlin-area-soccer-teams for any important games that might be played, but none of this, so the guys who put the bikes together won't be (too) drunk this week
I hope you get yours soon. I was told last Friday that mine was built and sitting at the factory waiting to be put in a container, checked through customs etc.

BUT, my dealer can't give me any updates as to where it is now except probably still at the factory. Hells bells, that is almost a week now and NOTHING. I was hoping to be picking it up this coming Saturday at the latest.

I am really getting fed up waiting (but I suspect my dealer is getting more fed up with me pestering him ) What makes it worse is hearing of other people in the UK having a test ride and then buying a bike from dealers stock (not my dealer) when I ordered mine late December.

Frustration vented now, feeling chilled again
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:32 AM   #6504
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I think those are the US (Dot) signals, not good.
Not sure about the nice small and short EU signals, currently US dealers are not selling those (I can be wrong).
Yes for the LED signals. A friend has already ordered and received them. I saw a post of someone that bought the Non-U.S. stalks for his camhead and installed them on his existing turn signals, so hoping the same would be available for the new GS, although I think I'd get the LEDs.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:34 AM   #6505
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I think those are the US (Dot) signals, not good.
Not sure about the nice small and short EU signals, currently US dealers are not selling those (I can be wrong).

I was pointed out at the International Motorcycle Show in Los Angeles area by the BMW Product Manager from NJ, that LED option turn signals can be purchased from the dealer. He then took me to another BMW bike that had them installed and showed me what it would look like.

Standard long stalk turn signal look like spear heads.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:46 AM   #6506
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So what? I am a software engineer and I'm not getting anywhere on that bike because there is no access to it. I know it was nearly a joke, but you are certainly right in some way. Complexity in systems has generally surpassed the riders ability to fix something.

Although, there are so many mechanical parts on a bike that it's plain audacious to provide this joke of a "toolkit". If you can't take off a wheel, tighten some loose bolts, or adjust the handlebars or levers with the onboard toolkit, you should be screaming like hell towards the manufacturer's bean counters. Again a case of maximizing profit by not giving the customer basic bits and pieces.

Just think about it, it's the same as if they sold a car without seat adjustment and made that an optional extra. It's time the press picks up stuff like that.
For some riders that ain't necessary. My handlebars will never be adjusted after the initial set up at the garage, let alone a wheel that should be changed.

And on a Merc Vito an adjustable passenger seat is an option...
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:05 AM   #6507
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And on a Merc Vito an adjustable passenger seat is an option...
But hat, Sir, is a Mercedes car and not at all a BMW Motorcycle; apples and oranges

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Old 03-14-2013, 02:25 AM   #6508
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I hope you get yours soon. I was told last Friday that mine was built and sitting at the factory waiting to be put in a container, checked through customs etc.

BUT, my dealer can't give me any updates as to where it is now except probably still at the factory. Hells bells, that is almost a week now and NOTHING. I was hoping to be picking it up this coming Saturday at the latest.

I am really getting fed up waiting (but I suspect my dealer is getting more fed up with me pestering him ) What makes it worse is hearing of other people in the UK having a test ride and then buying a bike from dealers stock (not my dealer) when I ordered mine late December.

Frustration vented now, feeling chilled again
I've heard that some dealers have stock as well Paul. Could you not just cancel the order with your dealer, and get one from one with stock?
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:29 AM   #6509
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I think those are the standard (non U.S.) turn signals. With the optional (non U.S.) turn signals being the LEDs.

This picture below I believe has the U.S. turn signals....vastly uglier I'm afraid to say , but in compliance with silly DOT rules. The good news is that your dealer will sell the optional LED euro turn signals and perhaps a shorter euro stalk for the standard turn signals if you want to make the change. You'll also note in this picture, the corner of the amber fork reflector (US DOT requirement). However, since this picture has been taken, the DOT has declined approval for the LED DRL on the halogen headlights, so in place of that there will be a plastic piece. The Horshoe LED DRL that comes with the LED headlights has been approved.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news...1200gs-photos/
Over here the ugly things are standard as well. The LED's are included in some of the packages.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:29 AM   #6510
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But hat, Sir, is a Mercedes car and not at all a BMW Motorcycle; apples and oranges

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