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Old 03-24-2013, 07:49 AM   #7276
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Thanks for the photos. It looks like there could be an issue when mounting a side stand expansion plate together with the adjustable foot pegs in the lowest position. I have ordered the adjustable foot pegs and I think that I won't order the side stand expansion plate yet.

Again thanks for posting the photos. Perfect illustration of a small but potential issue.

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Max i just checked the position and it's in the upper position, not the middle. I've adjusted the peg to the low position and then you hit the stand big time. In the middle position i hit the stand just a little.

I then adjusted the touratech side stand enlarger a bit - there is room to play. It helped but i think not enough. I will be trying it in the middle position for a while while actually riding the bike.
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:54 AM   #7277
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You won't be able to control a 660 with the wheel, it will only control the BMW nav 4.
I wonder if i could update my Garmin 660 to a nav4.

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My only nagging worry is that all the magazine reviews have hinted that BMW rearranged the valve configuration with an eye on adding variable valve timing on a future version of this engine. Although 125 HP is about 30 more than I really need, it gives me pause to think that there might be a newer engine with better low-end torque available soon.

I know, there's always a newer model on the horizon, but has anyone else thought about this?

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I expect them to update it every 2 years or so. And I don't feel like waiting another 2 years.

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Yup, required and ugly. I'm German so in my case they are only recommended, same with speed limits
If I were riding at night I'd keep them but I don't so I'm OK with front visibility via aux lights and additional Skene Design P3 break LED's for the rear (absolutely great product).
I am really considering putting some P3 lights on there. I often riede at night or in fog and rear visibility of most bikes ain't that good. Only problem for me is installing it properly.
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:57 AM   #7278
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My bike is on code 181 now. Should be at de dealer next Friday at latest...
I do think I've stalked my dealer to much by now. Just hope mine will be on the same truck, since last wednesday it was awaiting shipment. Logically it will be the third one to arrive now. First 5 have arrived and mine was No8 at my dealership.
At the moment the agreement is to phone me when it (or the papers) arrive. Don't like the stress of waiting. But I would really like to have it before the long weekend.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:00 AM   #7279
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I expect them to update it every 2 years or so. And I don't feel like waiting another 2 years.
Actually I would say closer to 4.
BMW history really teaches.
First engine update on oilhead GS came late 2007 IIRC (first deliveries I think start of 2008).
I suspect sportier models will get the "more HP" version first, THEN the GS.
This depends though on when we will have sportier models with THIS (V1 WC) engine. RT is coming first, then R. It is possible that a boxer S version will be (re)introduced. You read it here first.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:15 AM   #7280
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I do think I've stalked my dealer to much by now. Just hope mine will be on the same truck, since last wednesday it was awaiting shipment. Logically it will be the third one to arrive now. First 5 have arrived and mine was No8 at my dealership.
At the moment the agreement is to phone me when it (or the papers) arrive. Don't like the stress of waiting. But I would really like to have it before the long weekend.
Same at my dealer. 2 red ones, 3 x T-grey and one white demo sitting at the parking lot, surrounded by snow.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:17 AM   #7281
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test ride

I got a chance to test ride the new wet head yesterday. I can add one data point that says this bike feels totally different than the previous generation. One thing I did notice is that, unlike the previous gen that a nice top end rush, this one flattens off as you approach redline. Yes, there is PLENTY of power on tap, but it's concentrated at lower rpms. The whole riding experience reminds me very much of the Ducati Multistrada 1200. In short, I LOVE it! Not sure how she might be on dirt, but as a street machine, this is very sweet.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:33 AM   #7282
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Same at my dealer. 2 red ones, 3 x T-grey and one white demo sitting at the parking lot, surrounded by snow.
My dealer was a bit depressed by the thought of the launch weekend. Brand new bikes out in snow if they clients are crazy enough. They unspokenly gave me the advice not to come. Wait till the time gets better if you want to do some testrides was their advice.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:50 AM   #7283
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Max i just checked the position and it's in the upper position, not the middle. I've adjusted the peg to the low position and then you hit the stand big time. In the middle position i hit the stand just a little.

I then adjusted the touratech side stand enlarger a bit - there is room to play. It helped but i think not enough. I will be trying it in the middle position for a while while actually riding the bike.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:51 AM   #7284
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Max i just checked the position and it's in the upper position, not the middle. I've adjusted the peg to the low position and then you hit the stand big time. In the middle position i hit the stand just a little.

I then adjusted the touratech side stand enlarger a bit - there is room to play. It helped but i think not enough. I will be trying it in the middle position for a while while actually riding the bike.
Thanks. I will have a closer look at this issue when I get my own. Again congrats with your new bike. It looks very nice in white with the spoke wheels.

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Old 03-24-2013, 09:04 AM   #7285
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You need to register the Nav with Garmin with your computer and it will let you know when updates are available(your computer not the Nav). Connect it to the computer via USB and within an hour it's all up to date.
Thanks for the reply. I am familiar with the update process but my question was more aimed at how the "Lifetime" was delivered together with the bike. When you buy a Garmin Zumo 660 then you can separately purchase a lifetime update and it is provided as a plastic card (credit card size) with a printed code on it. So do you get one of these plastic cards with a code from your BMW Motorrad dealer?

Sorry, for not being precise in the wording of my initial question.

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Old 03-24-2013, 09:15 AM   #7286
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I have read every thread and review of the new LC1200gs

..and it seems that the new engine does not have a belt driving the alternator. On one hand that is good. On the other hand, the alternator seems to be buried inside of the engine? Is this correct?

If so, what happens when Alternator gets 30k, 60k, 100k on it. Brushes wear out! OMFG! ... Thousands of dollars to fix the charging system?

If it is a "brushless alternator" then what about bearing life etc.....

I dont think Meeeza likee that!

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Old 03-24-2013, 09:53 AM   #7288
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..and it seems that the new engine does not have a belt driving the alternator. On one hand that is good. On the other hand, the alternator seems to be buried inside of the engine? Is this correct?

If so, what happens when Alternator gets 30k, 60k, 100k on it. Brushes were out! OMFG! ... Thousands of dollars to fix the charging system?

If it is a "brushless alternator" what about bearing life etc.....

I dont think Meeeza likee that!
The alternator is gear driven now.
Good thing.

Why thousands of dollars to fix it?
I think it is still accessible. I think you can even see it.
Check the engine animation video.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:31 AM   #7289
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The alternator is gear driven now.
Good thing.

Why thousands of dollars to fix it?
I think it is still accessible. I think you can even see it.
Check the engine animation video.
IT IS hard to tell. Maybe a tech or someone who knows can help. I was planing on buying one in the fall... now... not so sure
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:39 AM   #7290
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..and it seems that the new engine does not have a belt driving the alternator. On one hand that is good. On the other hand, the alternator seems to be buried inside of the engine? Is this correct?

If so, what happens when Alternator gets 30k, 60k, 100k on it. Brushes were out! OMFG! ... Thousands of dollars to fix the charging system?

If it is a "brushless alternator" what about bearing life etc.....

I dont think Meeeza likee that!
Is it complicated to change? You decide. Will it need changing? You decide.

At least here is an illustration.



Without knowing then I think that BMW Motorrad have found that with this new construction with very easy access to the clutch on the front of the engine the overall service (servicing/changing clutch and alternator) will be more effective. More likely to change the clutch than the alternator. Nobody knows. They and we will know in five years if this was the best solution.

Max :-)

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